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WT Point "B" ~ NEUTER Gender Nouns & Pronouns |
"But on
the other hand, we find Jesus repeatedly using IMPERSONAL
pronouns when referring to God's holy spirit,
a
most DISRESPECTFUL thing to do if the holy spirit
were the third person of a trinity, coequal, & cosubstantial
with Jehovah God himself....
But if the
holy spirit were the third person of the trinity,
equal to God & Christ in glory & honor as claimed by the creeds,
could we imagine the Scriptures
referring to the holy spirit as ' IT ' ?"
(Watchtower July 15, 1957 p.434)
I received a letter from the Canadian WT
headquarters that states:
"If the holy spirit is a person,
IT should always be referred to as 'he' in
the Bible.
Jesus is a person, & is NEVER referred
to as 'it'. Nor is Jehovah God.
But at times the Greek
word pneuma is in the NEUTER gender.
That means that IT
is considered as neither masculine nor feminine."
Compare the above letter
with
this quote.
But nowhere
do we read of Jehovah God [yes, see
B6] and
Jesus [yes, see B7]
as being referred to
by neuter pronouns, which is the case in regard to the
holy spirit.
(w53 1/1 The Scriptures,
Reason & the Trinity, p.24)
B1 - Greek grammar requires
that if a NOUN is neuter in gender, then technically,
associated adjectives & pronouns must also be shown
as neuter, even if a person is being referred to (e.g.
The Holy Spirit, Jesus, John the Baptist, Jehovah God,
angels, demons, infants, children, girls). [For readability, translators normally adapt to the grammar & idiom of the language chosen.] |
B2 - The GREEK word for spirit is "pneuma" - a NEUTER gender noun. |
B3 - The HEBREW word for spirit is "ruach" - a FEMININE gender noun! |
B4 - The ARAMAIC
word for spirit is
"rucha" - also a FEMININE
gender noun! [Some Aramaic NT words & phrases are: Abba, Father (Rom.8:15); Maranatha (1Cor.16:22); Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani (Mk.15:34). Aramaic is a West Semitic language closely related to Hebrew.] |
B5 - Because pneuma
is always neuter in gender,
ALL pneumas
are ITS grammatically ! That's why Scripture refers to The Holy Spirit as ' IT '. |
B6 - Jehovah God is a (neuter pneuma 'IT') Spirit (see Jn.4:24) ! |
B7 - In the Greek text, Jesus is referred to as IT - 5x, & as ITS - 5x (see Mt.2:8,11,13,14,20,21) ! |
B8 - The Holy Spirit is referred to as IT or ITSELF (see Rom.8:26,27; 1Cor.12:11; Heb.10:15,17). |
B9 - Angels are (neuter pneuma 'IT') spirits (see Heb.1:14) ! |
B10 - John the Baptist is referred to as IT - 8x (see Lk.1:59,60,62,63,66,67) ! |
B11 - Another neuter noun is daimonion - demon (found 60x) ! |
B12 - Another neuter noun is brephos - infant (see Lk.1:41,44; 2:16; 18:15) ! |
B13 - Another neuter noun is paidion - child (see Mk.5:39-41) ! |
B14 - Another neuter noun is korasion - girl (see Mt.9:24,25; Mk.5:41,42) ! |
B15 - Like Hebrew, & Aramaic, & Greek, other languages have GRAMMATICAL gender, & NATURAL gender words. The French word for "tree" is MASCULINE in gender. Should English people conclude that French trees are "men"; or that Greek neuter nouns, pronouns, & adjectives make THE Father, THE Son, & THE Spirit (& angels, demons, infants, children, girls, John the Baptist, etc.) into " ITS " ? |
The WT tries to drive down BOTH sides of the Theological Road on the Same Grammatical Issue | |
MASCULINE Gender & PERSONAL Pronouns are just Conformity to Grammatical Rules | But the WT ALSO claims: NEUTER Gender & IMPERSONAL Pronouns proves the Spirit is NOT a Person (???) |
On the other hand, in the same context, when the Greek pneu'ma is used, John employs a neuter pronoun to refer to the holy spirit, pneu'ma itself being neuter. Hence, we have in John's use of the masculine personal pronoun in association with pa·ra'kle·tos an example of conformity to grammatical rules, not an expression of doctrine. (Insight, Spirit, p.1019) | Though personified as a "helper," the holy spirit is not a person, for a Greek neuter pronoun (rendered "it") is applied to the spirit. (Jehovah's Spirit Leads His People, w92 9/15, footnotes p.16) |
Thus we can see that Trinitarians point to personal pronouns when these seem to support their view but ignore them when they do not. A careful examination of passages used by Trinitarians, however, reveals that John's use of pronouns -both neuter and masculine- is a matter of grammar and therefore does not support their claim that the spirit is a person, the "third person" of the triune God. (w74 7/15 Is the Holy Spirit Really a Person? p.423) | The Greek word for spirit
is in itself neuter in gender and is
properly referred to, therefore, by the neuter pronoun in
English because it does not have personality. (wt61 4/15 Questions From Readers, p.256) Notice how the use of the neuter gender in referring to the helper shows it not to be a person: "And I will request the Father and he will give you another helper to be with you forever, the spirit of the truth, which the world cannot receive, because it neither beholds it nor knows it. You know it, because it remains with you and is in you." (John 14:16, 17; also AT, ED, Ro) (wt57 11/15, Jehovah's Helper, p.685) |
The Bible, not the clergy [ nor the WT ], gives the true information regarding the helper. For one thing, the Greek language, which is the original language of the Christian Scriptures, is a precise language. The Greeks had a word to express the exact meaning or shade of meaning that they wished to convey, and the Christian writers knew that language well. In addition they wrote under inspiration and so would certainly select the correct words to convey the truth clearly. | |
My
favourite WT quote is the following admission. "It is true that Jesus spoke of the holy spirit as a "helper" and spoke of such helper as 'teaching,' 'bearing witness,' 'giving evidence,' 'guiding,' 'speaking,' 'hearing,' and 'receiving.' In so doing, the original Greek shows Jesus at times applying the personal pronoun "he" to that "helper" (paraclete)." (Insight, Vol.2, p.1019) |
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If the masculine word parakletos
doesn't prove The Holy Spirit is a Person to the WT. Then the WT can't use the neuter word pneuma to say The Holy Spirit is a Force. |
RESEARCH about: " THE > SPIRIT -- THE > HOLY (ONE) " | |||||
Is "The Holy Spirit" a
FORCE, or a
Sentient BEING
-- or BOTH ?
The
Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society's
view on "The Holy Spirit" "
The Scriptures
themselves unite to show that WOW !!! ~ IF The Holy Spirit is just a force,
then I (& any truth-seeker) |
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I don't view my work as a THEOLOGICAL
DEBATE. There's no prize for the winner. This research is to help JWs think about their eternal destiny -- it's about you & God, not about me. If WT teaching is wrong, you are picking a fight with the most AWESOME BEING in the universe! The Holy Spirit has emotion (intellect & will) & can be INSULTED & OUTRAGED !!! Heb.10:26-31 warns: For if we practice sin willfully {or stubbornly, or mindlessly, or blindly, or foolishly} after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, 27 but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment & [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition. 28 Any man that has disregarded the law of Moses dies without compassion, upon the testimony of two or three. 29 Of how much more severe a punishment, do YOU think, will the man be counted worthy who has trampled upon the Son of God & who has esteemed as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, & who has OUTRAGED THE SPIRIT of undeserved kindness with contempt? 30 For we know him that said: "Vengeance is mine; I will recompense"; & again: "Jehovah will judge his people." 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of [the] living God. |
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According to WT
opinion: |
According to Scripture: (Greek allos = another of the same kind -- not different-kind-heteros). |
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Therefore:
In other words, The Trinity is
alive & well. |
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Because of deliberate, consistent, repeated,
systematic emphasis, programming & reinforcement (a.k.a. re-education, conditioning, mind control, thought reform, brain washing), JWs automatically equate & substitute the Bible expression "The Holy Spirit" with the WT's phrase "Active Force", even though the "Active Force" phrase is a MISTRANSLATION & found only ONCE in their own Bible!!! See the NWT at Gen.1:2.
Click here
for more detail, & the
WT's 28 Meanings /
Senses / Interpretation-opinions for "ruach"
& "pneuma" ( spirit
). The Awesome PERSON &
the awesome POWER of The Holy Spirit
(throughout Scripture) The GIVER & the
GIFT -- in Acts 2:4 for example: |
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WT Basis for "FORCE" Concept |
My Response |
Scripture Basis for "PERSON" Concept |
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A | Absent Greek Definite Article 'the' | Fact, BUT... | A1 | Comparison Chart: - DEMON pneuma (spirit) | |
A2 | Demon-Pneuma-Spirits are Sentient Beings | ||||
A3 | ABSENT Greek 'the' = Awesome POWER | ||||
A4 | PRESENT Greek 'the' = Awesome PERSON | ||||
B | Pneuma = Neuter Gender noun | Fact, BUT... | B1 | Greek Nouns & Pronouns prove Awesome Person | |
C | holy spirit Associated with Impersonal Things | Fact, BUT... | C1 | EMOTION = Personality | |
C2 | INTELLECT = Personality | ||||
C3 | WILL = Personality | ||||
D | The Holy Spirit has NO Personal Voice | F A L S E | D1 | SPEAKS DIRECTLY & via Humans & Scripture | |
E | The Holy Spirit has NO Personal Name |
Unknown, but so what? |
E1 | Names / Titles of The Holy Spirit | |
E2 | Testimony of Jesus (GOD-THE-WORD) | ||||
F | A 'Person' only because of Personification |
WT's FAULTY conclusion CONTRADICTS a host of "inconvenient" Scriptures |
F1 | Testimony of the Whole NT | |
F2 | Comparison Chart: - PARACLETE (Advocate) | ||||
F3 | Awesome Scriptural Warnings | ||||
F4 | Greek Facts / Scholarship | ||||
F5 | Does the WT Misquote Scholars ? | ||||
F6 | Convincing Evidence (& "Michael") | ||||
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Kingdom Interlinear
~ Definite Article chart to see
the various spellings of the neuter gender "the".
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Greek Interlinear NT
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