Part 4
Ghost Wolf: Yeah. We’re seeing these 22 strands of the original strand of what we were, well, that comes from 22 different places in the universe. We’re a combination of many races. We hold, within us, the consciousness of the: Rigelians, of the Andromedans, of the Sirians, I could go on, of the Pleiadians. It’s all there. The documents are there. The documents are in the ancient Pyramids. The skulls are there. The writings are there, but for so long this was all taken and hidden, burnt, destroyed, thrown away, carted-off to the Vatican, put it down in the vaults.
Martin: Ok.
Ghost Wolf: So I don’t skip. But we have this whole situation going with the Germans after the war. Where did all the scientists go? They came over here. You see, they had all these incredible companies, you know, Squibb Pharmaceuticals, I could go on, strange aerospace companies that were put up all over the place.
Martin: Operation Paperclip.
Ghost Wolf: Yeah. Lockheed, with their famous black buildings with no windows!
Martin: Well, NASA, for crying out loud.
Ghost Wolf: I mean, there’s one in Sunnyvale, if you ever want to take a drive down there (up there). It looks like something out of Darth Vader-land. It’s totally black, black glass, the whole thing, but no windows. And inside, they do a lot of this kind of stuff, and a lot of genetic engineering.
Martin: (Laughter)
Ghost Wolf: And you and I know, we’re not talking about a new one. (Laughter) And I’m not sure for $400,000 you get the garage.
Martin: Right.
Ghost Wolf: It’s this whole system, and it has moved in so thick and so heavy, it’s like a fog. People are totally in a fog, they don’t see it. They don’t see that you don’t raise cattle in this country anymore. You go out and you look at the corn fields and nothing grows. It’s all genetically engineered seed. It’s death. You can’t grow it. You can’t take the seeds, you can’t grow it. Not only can’t you grow it, but you can’t live on it. Ok? You can’t live on it.
Martin: Right, typical.
Ghost Wolf: And we all know that Richard Hoagland had one, ok?
Martin: Right.
Ghost Wolf: Everybody that I know, including Dannion Brinkley—who within the last year and a half has been turning around and bringing this information without naming names, just asking people to think and getting real close to the button of what was going on—has had something happen to them. The point of the matter is, we have to decide whether we’re spiritual beings or are we 3rd-dimensional beings?
Martin: There’s been a lot of talk in the esoteric literature about a so-called "harvest." Has any of the Mayan or other information that you’ve gleaned over the years dealt with that or explained that?
Ghost Wolf: I’m familiar with what you’re talking about and I think, didn’t that all start with books by Ruth Montgomery? Martin: Some with Ruth Montgomery, some with the Ra Material.
Ghost Wolf: Right.
Martin: I’m not sure if Cayce talked about it.
Ghost Wolf: Oh yes, Mr. Cayce talked about it; Cayce knew. We have extraterrestrial origins. So let’s stop playing that game: Is it? Isn’t it? Did it? Who? We had it. Our ancestors coming back are them.
Martin: (Laughter)
Ghost Wolf: They don’t even know what the heck the names are on half the things that they fed them. They just come in with a little tray and they say "You take two of the pink ones and one of the green ones. Now we’re going to play the acid-rock late-’60s song "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" and you’re...
Martin: (Laughter)
Ghost Wolf: ...gonna listen to this music and all of a sudden they come back with these phenomenal stories, you know. I’ve talked to many, many people who were involved in the Montauk Experiment. I’ve had countless conversations with Al Bielek and other people. Some of them are credible, some of them, I think, are on the other side of lunacy.
Martin: (Laughter)
Ghost Wolf: Because how can you deny it? I don’t care what your belief patterns are, nobody can deny what a man in India by the name of Sri Sai Baba does. And he didn’t do that with drugs. When Grandfather Frank Foolscrow would come into a lodge, and he would take 7 breaths and breathe on the stones that were cold in the pit and they would suddenly glow, red-hot, he didn’t do that through substance. He didn’t do that through technology. He did that by rightful will. When I’ve seen healers heal people, when I’ve had people come into sweat lodges, and I’ve seen brain tumors, literally, be coughed out on the stones, it didn’t have to do with technology. It had to do with the rightful use of will.
Martin: When you were in Tibet, did you have any experiences with Babaji?
Ghost Wolf: Yes, I did. I thought he was an incredible human being, absolutely incredible human being. But he used to make jokes with me a lot. He used to tell me I took life too seriously.
Martin: It’s hard not to!
Ghost Wolf: He told me I should laugh more, and that I should realize there was nothing that I could really change. All I could do was just go along my personal path of dharma, and that those who I would come in contact with would realize what I was telling them, and why did I feel that I had to tell them anyway? That was my memory of Babaji. Have more fun and have a lighter heart about what was going on because it was not something new.
Martin: I assume he has, but has he worked with the Mayans, directly?
Ghost Wolf: Yes. I don’t know to what extent; I don’t know his personal involvements.
Martin: That’s just a personal question.
Ghost Wolf: In my new book — did they send you a copy of the manuscript Through The Eye Of The Shaman?
Martin: I picked one up at the Awareness 2000 Expo down in Los Angeles.
Ghost Wolf: Right. In that book I tried to put things in Western language.
Martin: I noticed that.