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Last Updated 03-15-2007 Added Workng With Webers


Working with Webers- 06/06

First, stock size jets work in 99% of all engines. I mean the stock size jets that Weber actually installed. If these carbs came from CB Performance, then most likely they have been drilled larger and can cause problems.. The main one being fouled plugs (too rich)....(these may be ok in CA or with different altitudes, but here in the eastern US, it is a different story) OK, the first thing you need to do is take the tops off and set the float level. Turn the top upside down and see where the float rests. FULLY seated,(the weight of the float may or may not fully seat them, use your finger lightly) the float should be running upward on the end opposite of the needle valve. About 1/16 from parallel to the base. Almost all of them from the factory are just the opposite. This will cause flooding in ANY rough riding or going over almost any hills. Now that you got the tops off, and the floats set, go ahead and use compressed air and blow the carbs out. Remove all of the jets and check their sizes. Now put the back together with the linkage either loose or unhooked. Back the throttle stop screws out until they no longer contact the arms. Now turn them in to where they JUST hit the arms, then go 1 turn more. This will give you a starting point. Adjust the spring loaded lean/rich screws all the way in until the bottom out (lightly) and back them out about 3 turns. This is likely too much but we will get to this in a minute. The air bypass screws (the ones with the locknuts around them, I would go about 1 to 2 turns on these). Over time, the throttle plates inside of the carbs (also called buterflies)wear until the engine will be idling too fast even with the throttle stop screws backed all the way out. If so, then you can adjust these air bypass screws in and it will slow the idle back down. With good or new carbs, you should be able to leave these out 2 or so turns and still be able to achieve a slow idle. I HIGHLY recommend installing a SINTERED BRONZE fuel filter before starting the engine. I fought clogged idle jets for years before curing ALL of that by using a sintered bronze filter. Sintered bronze looks like a brass "rock" and will not come apart and let small pieces of paper into the small idle jets, like all paper filters seem to do. And all of the other filters that are not paper, do not seem to filter down small enough like the sintered bronze does. These are available at almost any parts store, JC Whitney, etc. I cannot stress this enough as constant clogged idle jets were a real pain. Now, start the engine. If it won't idle, the turn the throttle screws in another 1/2 to 1 turn. Now you need to adjust the throttle screws to smooth out the engine and to set idle speed. You can do this with a vacuum sync gauge, but I never do. I just listen to the sound of the engine and you should be able to tell when it is idling evenly. If not, then buy the gauge. Once you get the idle set, now is the time to adjust the spring loaded lean/rich screws. Turn it in until you hear the cylinder quit firing. Now SLOWLY back it out until it starts to fire again. Once it starts to fire, SLOWLY go out about 1/8 turn. If you go out too much, it will foul plugs. Repeat this with the others. If you cannot tell a difference when you turn a screw in, then you probably have a clogged idle jet. (or you didn't have it out enough to begin with-but 3 turns should have been plenty) Now is the time to set the linkage. The hex bar type is by far the best. Hook it all up (with the engine off) and slowly move the linkage and try to get it to where both throttles are moving off of their stops at exactly the same time. Keep checking. Now start the engine and throttle it just a very little (as right off of idle is where you will notice an out of sync condition the most). If the engine is smooth, then you are fine. If not, you will have to adjust some more. Loosen one of the linkage bars' jam nuts, and while holding the throttle down (again, not real fast, just right off of idle speed) turn the adjusting rod. The engine should either smooth out or get worse. Keep "playing" with it until you get it right. Tighten the jam nuts and try it again. If it sounds ok, then you are done. With the bronze fuel filter, you should be able to run for years without ever having to take the carbs apart again. (I have been running over 2 years). I also highly recommend the 2-stage air cleaners that bugpack sells.. Weber Carb Problem

I personally prefer Weber Carbs over the Dellorto's, but I will not get into that here, for I have seen both work well. The Webers are easier for me to work with and the Dellorto's have a MAJOR problem with internal lead plugs coming out when compressed air is used to clean them. (this cause fuel to run through the bowl as soon as it enters) I always use compressed air on Weber carbs, and I have found that it works as good (or better) than anything else. A issue that I encountered about 5 years ago, came up again the other day. A friend of mine has a buggy that idled great, and ran great, UNTIL you got up to about 3000 rpms. Then, it was if the engine just "lost a cylinder". I tracked down the problem to the carb on the driver's side (this tip would apply to a single carb setup as well). After taking the carb apart and "blowing it out", it never fixed the problem. Well, the first thing I did was changed plugs as a fouled plug will usually start missing at high rpm. This did not help either. Next I took the distributer cap off, as a cap wet on the inside will do all kinds of crazy things. Well, this did not help either. So, I took the carb back off and CAREFULLY examined everything. This time, while screwing the main jet holders into the body of the carb, I noticed that they did not "feel" right. They started tightening up gradually instead of the normal "solid" feel. I took them back out but could not see anything wrong, but there was a problem. For whatever reason , these get tight and will not go in all the way. What happens when they do not go in all the way is the main jet does not get seated in the bottom of the carb and when you run the engine and it starts pulling hard on the main jet, gas will leak around the jet causing a WAY too rich of a mixture..therby "losing" a cylinder. This is an easy fix.. all you need is a 11mm by 1.0 pitch die and rethread the stack. You can also chase the threads in the body of the carb if you want, but re-threading the stacks work best. If you are not sure as to whether the jet is actually going in all the way or not, pull the stack about 1/2 half way apart in the middle, then screw the assembly in. Now screw it back out and if it went in all the way, the stack will be pushed all the way together in the middle. (where you pulled it apart) (This would be a good place for a pic). If you have any questions about this, or if this saved you some headaches, let me know..

6-Volt starter Conversion

Take a 6 volt starter apart, take off the drive and throw it away (unless you have a 6 volt ring gear). Then take a 12 volt starter drive and press the little bushing out of the center of it. Then, it will fit over the 6 volt armature perfectly. Then take the armature to someone who has a lathe and turn down the very end so it will fit into a 12 volt bushing. Cut it about 1/8 inch from where the snap ring goes. (so you can use the 6 volt snap ring that keeps the drive from coming out too far). Then put it back together, and you are set. The 6 volt starter will really turn over those tough engines and they will last for years as long as the bushing in the trans is replaced often. (the one in the back of the starter too) You can also just use the outer part (or field) of the 6 volt starter and then use a 12 volt amarture. This works good also. I have read and heard people say "This wont last", or "It will burn the starter up". It all depends on what you do. I mean, ANY starter will burn up if kept continuously cranking and I would agree that this conversion would burn up sooner than a straight 12 volt, BUT if your engine wont start, then why keep cranking it? Fix the problem with your engine. I have been running this starter for 4 years and I have not burned one up, nor have I seen any burn up that I have made. Another factor is the bushing in the trans..it must be changed often, say once a year depending on how much you ride.

Flywheel Holder

Here is an easy way to make a flywheel holder to use when you are removing or installing a flywheel. Those "flywheel locks" that you can buy are marginal at best. I once busted my hand when one of those broke on me. Take a old pressure plate (the kind that has the three "arms" in it. Take it apart, leaving only the outer part that bolts to the flywheel. Weld a one inch or so pipe rod bar or whatever onto it. Make sure that you dont weld it over the hole where the gland nut goes. All you have to do after you are finished welding is bolt it on, and remove/install flywheel. No more having to use 2 people as with this tool, one person can do it easily without the engine flopping around all over the place.

Alternative Electronic Ignition Distributers

Here is an idea that I discovered several years back and I THOUGHT I had it on here, but I missed it somehow. There are several electronic ignition distributers available today. I am not talking about aftermarket ones, I am talking about ones you can find cheap in the local salvage yards. They really work great and will crank until no tomorrow. Here is some of what I have found: Mitsibushi engines (2.0, 2.6)have good ones. These are in Dogde Colts, Dodge vans, K-cars, etc, as well as Hyundai (ever how you spell it!), Precis, and others. Next, the older Toyota engine distributers work great. These are found in any Toyotas that have the 2-TC, 3-TC, 18, 20, or 22R engines. Make sure you get the "ignitor" if you are getting a Toyota dist. These are attached to the coil. It is also a good idea to use the factory coil with any distributer. Make a note of the wiring if you take it off of the coil. If you switch them, it will fry the module. Next, all you have to do is dis-assemble the dist., shorten the housing and shaft, bore the end of the housing so you can use the bushing that you cut off on the end of the housing, and then drill the shaft (5/32) so you can install the VW drive gear. On the Mitsibushi distributers, some of them have the advance right under the rotor and you can adjust it real easily. The others are in the bottom, but still not too hard to adjust if you want to. Here are a few notes: You do not have to take off the vacuum chamber on the outside, but I always do because there is a mechanical advace built into each of these distributers. If you leave it on, do not hook up a vacuum hose. If you take it off, you will need to block the plate so that it will not turn. Once you take the dist. apart, you will see what I mean. You can spot weld it with a mig, or break the arm off of the vacuum chamber and drill a hold in the end of it and screw it solid into the hole that originally held the vacuum chamber in. Also, BEFORE you block it, make sure that the "plate" is in a close enough position you that when the reluctor (the little square thing) is aligned with the pickup, that the rotor button will be in line with one of the 4 posts in the dist cap. Again, once you get it all apart you can tell what I mean. Another note: Make sure, especially if you are using a Mitsibushi dist., that you get the advance pins into the 2 slots. Just look at it when you take it apart. They are easy to get out and if you do, the mechanical advance will not work. I am going to get some pics of all of this as soon as I have more time. One last note: If you are using a Toyota dist, the shaft in these are REAL hard to drill. Heat it up cherry red first and it will drill a lot easier. If you have any questions about these, just e-mail me- Eric

Flywheel Puller Tool

Flywheel removal tool. Some flywheels can be a REAL pain to remove. Are you tired of using screwdrivers and pry bars that do not pull the flywheel off straight? Setting up end play can be a real hassle especially with the forged 8 dowell cranks..they seem to be extra tight. Well, you can make a CHEAP flywheel removal tool. WHat I did was take a old flywheel, drill out the 6 holes (threads) where the pressure plate bolts on with a 5/16 or 11/32 drill bit. You will need 3 bolts longer than the ones that hold the pressure plate on, but the same thread (8mm x 1.25) about 1 1/2 inches long. Then all you need is a long threaded bolt or rod with about 6 inches of thread on it. If you have a rod instead of a bolt, you can weld a nut on it or if you have an old busted socket you can weld the square hole off of it onto the end of the rod. The rod can be 1/2, 5/8, 3/4 or whatever in diameter(just as long that it is not too big so it will hit the threads where the gland nut goes). Next you will need a nut that fits the threads on the bolt (or rod). Then all you have to do is weld the nut in the center of the old flywheel. When you are ready to remove a flywheel from a engine, all you have to do is take this tool you made, bolt it to the flywheel you are removing, (you put ring gear against ring gear). You dont have to use all 6 bolts, 3 spaced apart will do. then all you have to do is turn the bolt in against the crank and the flywheel will come off STRAIGHT, the way its supposed to. Just make sure that the bolt does not hit the threads where the gland nut goes. As long as you havethe nut welded in the center, even close, it should not hit. Note: All-thread will work, but since it is not a very hard material, use the 3/4 size.

Suspensions/Torsions

Sounds simple enough, but there are a few things to talk about in suspensions. If a suspension is too stiff, it will not climb very well, and if too soft, it will not take jumps very well. The IRS torsions up until 1973 have the transmission nose cone mounting studs coming straight out toward the transmission (horizontally). These are a good suspension, BUT they have to be beefed up in the middle as they will sag and your tires will be leaning in at the top (negative camber). How many times have you followed someone and notice this? A lot of people think that its the trailing arms, but most of the time it is not. It is caused by the torsion bending in the middle or a weak , soft torsion bar. (the tires naturally have negative camber as the torsion is compressed). To beef the torsion up, take a piece of 2 inch pipe about 3 or 4 inches long and split it lengthwise. Wrap this around the center and weld on both ends and up both sides. If your torsion is already bent, then tie both sides down next to the spring plates and take a floor jack and jack the middle up before you weld it. Stand back and look at the tires. Try to get a "little" positive camber. Negative camber just looks bad to me. I would rather see a positive camber of a LOT than a negative of any. The 1973 up IRS torsions have the transmission studs coming out of the bottom. These are strong without beefing. I have seen some people using the IRS BUS torsion housings. These are REAL beefy and will support a heavy buggy real well. The only weak point is the trailing arms which can beefed easily using pipe on the front side.

Spring plate Conversion and Tension Pre-load Setting

I like to use the torsion bars, rubber grommets, and spring plates from the swingaxle torsions and put into the IRS. This will do away with those annoying tubes sticking out and ALWAYS in the "stinkin'" way. All you have to do is weld the swingaxle spline into the IRS spring plate. To do this, first cut the center spline out of the swingaxle plate. Leave enough material around this, because you are going to weld it back into the IRS one. Cut the IRS one out and make sure that you don't cut the hole so big that the swingaxle spline won't have a big gap around it. Make SURE the splines are on the outside of the spring plate for the side you are doing, because spring plates have a top and a bottom. In other words, the first one you make will have to work on one side or the other, but it is possible to make two lefts, or rights. You could also just cut the swingaxle plate down to the IRS size and drill and slot the ends using an old IRS plate as a template. Either way, after you get these made, you then use the swingaxle torsion bars(which are stiffer and last longer without having to be twisted), and the swingaxle caps and rubber grommets. There are also 2 different sizes of swingaxle bars, and if you have a really heavy buggy then you might want to try to find the bigger(24mm- I think)ones. I think the smaller ones are 22mm. A good starting point to set the preload at is to align the bottom of the spring plate with the center of the hole (lower left) that holds the cap on. This will provide a stiff suspension at first, but it will soften with a few rides. How do I jack up the Spring plates? This can be a pain, too. I have seen people use all kinds of ways...come-alongs, floor jacks, 3 or 4 guys jumping up and down on the buggy, etc.. The best way I have found is to use an old VW jack and weld a 1/2" bolt on the top of it. Put it in one of the holes in your torsion and the bottom of the jack under the spring plate next to the outer edge. Sometimes the spring plate will try to rub the jack, so a bead or two of weld next to the pipe on the jack will stop this. Before you even start to jack it up, start 3 bolts in the torsion cap. This is a LOT easier then jacking it up first. Usually the one (lower left) will be covered up by the spring plate and cannot be started yet. Just tighten them a little, then jack it up just enough to get the 4th one started, and once you do, then jack it up until it clears the stop and tighten all bolts.

Wheels

A VERY often overlooked topic.. There is a BIG diference in wheels. First of all stay away from ANY "spoke" or sometimes called 5-star and 8-star design. These are simply JUNK. I have seen so many of these break. At first, friends of mine were bringing these to me to weld. They all break where the plates meet the rim. Have you seen any of this? If so, then you know what I mean. If you weld them, they will break again right next to the weld. Even the front spindle mount ones will bend and/or crack even when used on the street. They might work on a grocery getter, but never for anything else. As for any other wheel, they all seem to be good. I will put a picture up soon so you will know exactly the ones I am talking about. These are the only wheels I have personally had a problem with. Another thing to consider when buying wheels is weight. A wheel can be light and strong. The aluminum Douglas or Mitchell wheel is very light and is great for the sand dunes, moderate street, and racing (NOT obstacle course racing). Weld or Centerline makes a Very tough as well as good looking aluminum wheel. They are both expensive, but lighter weight is easier on parts (axles, transmisions, etc). If you are buying steel wheels, compare the weights. You should be able to find one around 20 lbs for a 10 inch wide wheel. The less ROTATING weight you have from the transmission, the better. Adding one pound rotating weight is like adding 10 pounds of weight on the whole buggy. The same goes for tires. For every pound you rotate, multiply that by 10. So if you are turning a 50lb tire, thats like taking a 500 lb weight and trying to haul it around plus whatever your buggy already weighs.

Shifters

WHich is best? Well, the best I have used is BY FAR the Gene Berg ones. I have one on my woods buggy that has had 4 years on it and it is as tight as new. They are expensive, but anything of quality usually is. The stock shifter is great as long as everything is setup properly. The "t" handle aluminum shifters will last a little while, but dont expect to get over a couple years on one. The aluminum ball wears out. The Scat "drag fast " shifter seems to be good (steel), but is a little tall for some people. In order for a shifter to work properly, all of the bushings need to be tight (the one in the box, AND on the trans). The plate that goes under the shifter goes with the long side up and on the passenger side. Sometimes it is hard to make any shifter work properly. The tube has to be real close in the correct position for it to work. Even then, I ahve had to grind some of the reverse lockout PIN on the cheap "t" shifters so I could get both 1/2 and 3/4 gates without having to push the reverse button in. (There was not enough room sideways) And on the opposite end, I have also had to weld a thin plate on the plate that this pin contacts so that you dont have to try to find each gate (too much room sideways). Patience is the key... Keep looking at it and figure out what is going and why "this is like this".

What About Steering?

What is good and what works.. Well, like most aspects of a buggy, it all depends on what you do to it or rather how hard you abuse it. For all out abuse, the Saco (or even the Saco copies)work really well. They are center steer and they are strong. But, they are somewhat harder to steer than a stock bug gearbox. A stock gearbox will stand moderate abuse, but everyone I ever had, really gets slack in them quickly. I have tried using (manual)rack and pinions from cars, and they steer really easy, and have about the same ratio as a stock gearbox, but they are not as strong as a gearbox either. For trail riding and street use, they work great. For hard off-roading and abuse, they do not. The bus gearboxes work great but you have to fabricate the pittman arm (it only has one hole)for it to work. You can probably mount it on the side like a beetle gearbox, but they are better mounted in the center. Center steering gives the least amount of bump steer (this is how much the tires get pulled in also called toed in, or pushed -toed out. With the car setting on level ground, you want the tie rods running lower on the end where they go into the arm next to the wheel. There are a lot of variables..spring rate, driving habits, etc.. that can change exactly how much to go, but about a inch or 2 is a good place to start. What about power steering? I have never personally ran this, but for a heavy buggy, or for someone who wants easy steering, then there are options.. The R&P from a Grand Am has a center steer setup that does work well. They are strong and don't look too bad. Again, for all out looks and strength, the Saco's are the best that I have seen. More soon..Eric

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