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Date:95-08-08-02a

MiscHealth List 1/5
From: dennis.k ier@greatesc.com (Dennis Kier)
Date: 1995/08/02
MessageID: 95080311301618472@greatesc.com#1/2
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organization: The Great Escape - Gardena, CA - (310) 676-3534
newsgroups: misc.health.alternative

 NAME, STREET, CITY, STATE, ZIP, PHONE, COMMENTS
AAAPSCO, 3592 Main St., Lemon Grove, CA 91945, 619-460-1020 Fax
    619-460-1021, Orgone shooter (Bio-Power energy accumulator)

Accelerative Tutoring & Transformations Institute, 45350 Ukiah St,
    Mendocino, CA, 95470, 707 937 4591, accelerative learning plans
Adventures Unlimited, Box 22, Stelle, IL, 60919,, archaeological
    expeditions to ancient civilizations

American Society Dowsers,, Danville, VT, 5824-0024,,

Arica Institute, 24 West 57th St., New York, NY, 10019,, growth
    integration of self

Borderland Sciences Research Foundation, P O Box 220, Bayside, CA,
    95524, 707 825-7733, Fax 707-825-7779
Borderlands BBS - 14;400bps: 8n1 BBS,,,,, 707 825-7779, Borderland
    Sciences Research Foundation Archives, internet

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Date:1995/08/04
Subject:      Wilhelm Reich listserv
From:         alanp06@embratel.net.br (Alan Pogrebinschi)
Date:         1995/08/04
Message-Id:   <3vtf2q$srv@rjo02.embratel.net.br>
Organization: Empresa Brasileira de Telecomunicacoes
Reply-To:     alanpog@ax.apc.org
Newsgroups:   sci.psychology

For those that are interested in Wilhelm Reich's work and Orgonomy, we 
have recently set up the Orgonomy Mailing List (OML).

Visit OML at : http://www.webcom.com/~virtual/tribe/orgonomy-list.html

Subscribe: mail to orgonomy@webcom.com w/ word "subscribe" at the *body*

Related sites: Tribe of Love: http:/www.webcom.com/~virtual/tribe/

and PORE: http://www.mainelink.net/~jogg/

Sincerely,

Alan

Date: 95-08-04a [Post]

Re: ki chi qi
From: noone@noware.wouldn'tyouliketoknow.where? (notme)
Date: 1995/08/04

MessageID: noone-0408950308340001@dwkm51.usa1.com#1/1

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<40.65674.2350@channel1.com>
organization: noware
newsgroups: rec.martial-arts

In article <40.65674.2350@channel1.com>,
bella.kinney@channel1.com (Bella
Kinney) wrote:

> -> >Strange as it seems, chi is real.....
>
> -> I am really only a beginner with qi gong practice, but was still able
> -> to use it personally to enhance a health situation.
> Thanks Bill, I am pleased to see another Healer speaking up for
> the life force. This is how I understand Chi energy, as a force for
> Healing. I place my hand near -not touching the injured place- and I
> sort of push with my thoughts... focussing apon the colors I perceive
> till it seems enough. The person I am helping is usually wearing a
> puzzled expression and saying something along the lines of "No,It
> doesn't hurt anymore, why is that?" when I'm finished. People
often
> think I'm rather nutty anyway so I'm used to being thought crazed, but
> then are people who ask me to help them also insane?
> It seems so limiting to dismiss things simply because they aren't
> well understood. Wilhelm Reich studied chi,( calling it
"orgone" ),
> they imprisoned him and
> burnt his books.
>
> Chi is very dangerous, very dangerous.
> You can heal people with it.
> Bella

This is what I've been taught: first use cool ki to heal, hot ki can
do damage. Further to not push but lead the ki as if drawing it through
from just beyond the target. Also to try to rub out the tapping with ki
like it was an eraser sending it through the region, and if your ki
is strong put a ki shield such as your hand as a barrier. I don't have this
problem, but my sensei can generate enough ki to make bruises visibly
change color in about a minute, but the energy requirements require
a shield of some sort otherwise it is too much and seeks to store
in the organs by burning them out or by grounding.
I like to think of shielding as a field grounded to the ground
or my dion tien. ( any ki going into the body not the injury gets
drawn back in or pushed into the ground.

Another good healing technique is skin breathing in which
ki is drawn through the skin to the injury and the bad ki is
drawn away to the horizon. I can't make it work ( it is a
type of healing for healing the self ) but I notice in meditation
I almost don't need to breath while doing skin breathing. Others
I know have found it quite valuble.

Oh and if my advice seems elementary or low level to some out there,
it is because I'm an amature. If you have any better ways to explain/
do these things I'd love to hear it.


-phil
braicap@lucy.merrimack.edu

If anything I've said has offended you I take it back to the
point of denying I ever said it :)



date: 95-08-9aa

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Re: ki chi qi

From: ra mrod1@ix.netcom.com (Chad J. Landry )
Date: 1995/08/09

MessageID: 40b450$kjk@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com#1/1

references: <3vmjgf$soo@newsbf02.news.aol.com> 
<40.65674.2350@channel1.com>
organization: Netcom
newsgroups: rec.martial-arts

In <40.65674.2350@channel1.com> bella.kinney@channel1.com (Bella
Kinney) writes: 
>
>-> >Strange as it seems, chi is real.....
>
>-> I am really only a beginner with qi gong practice, but was still
able
>-> to use it personally to enhance a health situation.
>      Thanks Bill, I am pleased to see another Healer speaking up for
>the life force.  This is how I understand Chi 
energy, as a force for
>Healing. I place my hand near -not touching the injured place- and I
>sort of push with my thoughts... focussing apon the colors I perceive
>till it seems enough. The person I am helping is usually wearing a
>puzzled expression and saying something along the lines of "No,It
>doesn't hurt anymore, why is that?" when I'm finished. People 
often
>think I'm rather nutty anyway so I'm used to being thought crazed, but
>then are people who ask me to help them also insane?
>      It seems so limiting to dismiss things simply because they
aren't
>well understood. Wilhelm Reich studied chi,( calling it 
"orgone" ),
>they imprisoned him and
>burnt his books.
>
> Chi is very dangerous, very dangerous.
>      You can heal people with it.
>                                      Bella

    Well said! The life force is what I called it before I ever heard
of ki. When I was a child I decided that God is "the life force", 
and
he lives in everyone and everything. 
    I've healed headaches by projecting this energy 
between my hands
through peoples heads. I was taught this by a massage therapist. I also
used, and saw her use the same technique to "neutralize" the 
magnetic
field in one of those "lightning ball" things that sends electricity 
to
wherever you touch it. (I don't know what it's called.) We found that
the energy was strongest at the moment between 
breaths. (We were
counting our breath Zen style at the time.)
    The energy that people call ki or whatever else 
they 
want to call
it is indeed a physical energy. Nothing mysterious 
about it. 

    A closed mind is difficult to open. Sometimes the back door works
best.
    
    Aikido, Tai Chi, Shiatsu, and other arts (not necessarily martial)
are instrumental in opening minds. They teach us not to oppose others,
but rather to harmonize with their energy. One can 
harmonize in many
ways. It doesn't have to be a physical attack for the principles of
Aikido to work.

    Chad 



date: 95-14-aa

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Re: Newbie Observer with comments and question
From: petert@bri.hp .com (Peter Tranter) 
Date: 1995/08/14
MessageID: DDBCyH.79p@bri.hp.com#1/1
sender: news@bri.hp.com (News User)
references: <STEVEN.9.000F1D41@library.health.ufl.edu>
organization: Hewlett-Packard
newsgroups: sci.skeptic

STEVEN@library.health.ufl.edu wrote:
:       I recently discovered the skeptics net and find it enthralling. 
: The level of discussion is consistently high. However, I am continually 
struck 
: by the degree to which the basic tenets of science are held up in the same 
: dogmatic fashion as religious people extoll their own beliefs. While western 
: science has done much to advance civilisation, isn't it at possible 
: that some legitimate phenomena can't be repeated upon demand in a 
laboratory 
: setting?    Isn't it just possible that the universe doesn't conform in 
: every instance to phenomena that can be discovered and examined via the 
: "scientific method?"


Yes, that's a danger. It might be that psycho kinesis exists but that its
practitioners can't exercise it at will, and that the presence of critical
minds dispel the energies. Also, the fact that the same things can be done
by stage magicians and that some of the exponents have been caught in 
trickery doesn't disprove it. But it just doesn't seem very credible.
Actually, I think most people would like it to exist, the world would 
suddenly become a more varied and exciting place with something else to 
play
with, but that's no reason for just accepting it.

It's right to be critical and to strive for confidence in the bodies of 
knowledge we have. There's nothing to be gained by being gullible and 
believing things which are not true.
Also, any new theory has to account for existing well tried knowledge - 
like classical mechanics.

On the other hand, one could be accused of being jaundiced. I must confess
to having absolutely no time for Wilhelm Reich's 
Orgone energy. 
Having
tried to detect "The Aura" and arranging for many others to do 
the same,
I don't really have much patience for such claims any more. It also 
strikes me that actually testing some of these extraordinary claims is 
not something that would cross the minds of most of their proponents.
As far as I can see, astrology is without any convincing evidential basis.

:       I freely admit that I lack the scientific background that most of you 
: here enjoy, and I am simply wondering how many of you out there are 
bothered 
: by the ethnocentrism so frequently on display. 
:       I mean-- a whole new set of animals, including a goat with gill-like 
: slits were recently discovered in a remote area of Korea. Is that a victory 
: for science? Maybe. But the villagers who had been claiming to see the 
animals 
: for decades only to be dismissed until recently don't look quite so stupid
: anymore, do they? Isn't there a lesson here-- in humility if nothing else?

I must admit that my first reaction is that this seems unlikely, for 
several reasons. Do you mean it has gill slits or just something looking like
gills? What does the purpose of these slits seem to be?

If firm evidence exists to support the existence of this animal then it would
be unreasonable not to believe it. Has anyone produced such a goat or a  
carcase? 

Where did you come across this report please? 

:      Please don't take this as a flame of any kind. I am interested in 
: hearing what you folks might have to say on the subjects raised above. 
:                                    --Steven V        


Pete Tranter.



date: 95-08-21aa

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Re: UN Takeover

From: Walter.Ulrich@teleport.com
Date: 1995/08/21

MessageID: 809036255$8667@atype.com#1/1

approved: militia-request@atype.com 
(dfa965941b2cfd6978aa9becb874a3eb)
references: <809019220$7381@atype.com>
organization: Darwin Branch Memorial Trust
return-path: <news@teleport.com>
newsgroups: misc.activism.militia


>   aaiuto@rust.net (Tony Aiuto) writes:

>   Isnt telsa the one with the 
"orgone" If he is its not paranoid its 
smart, Id
>  say! The guy with the "orgone" 
had his books and papers burned, his laboratory 
>  destroyed and was thrown in jail!

>>>>

    Nope. Wilhelm Reich (pupil of Freud) researched 
orgone energy, 
"cloud buster"
weather control, "orgone" 
accumulator boxes and was hounded into prison by
the FDA, where he later died.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



date: 95-08-22aa

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Re: UN Takeover

From: rbb2@innet.com
Date: 1995/08/22

MessageID: 809102255$9950@atype.com#1/1

approved: militia-request@atype.com (acc653c8873148755f54be3a7687bf02)
references: <808598287$568@atype.com> 
<808786266$4882@atype.com> <809019220$7381@atype.com>
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newsgroups: misc.activism.militia


Tony Aiuto (aaiuto@rust.net) wrote:

: In article <808786266$4882@atype.com>, tresdedos@aol.com (Tres 
Dedos) wrote:
:  
:  How does a report of an experiment by Tesla that "no one has been 
able to
:  duplicate"  change within a few words to the idea that wide-scale 
weather
:  control is "totally possible"?
:  
:  Do the words "paranoid logic" strike a familiar note.
:  
:  No E-Mails, please.

:  Sorry Tres, This newsreader is R for private reply! diddnt catch it 
: until it was too late


:  Isnt telsa the one with the "orgone" 
If he is its not paranoid its smart, Id
: say! The guy with the "orgone" had 
his books and papers burned, his laboratory 
: destroyed and was thrown in jail!


Telsa was among the greatest applied physicists in history.  70 years later
much of his research allegedly remains classified.  Among other things
Tesla developed the use of alternating current for the practical and somewhat
safer transmission of energy.  Without Tesla's 
contributions your life
would be much ore primitive than it is today.

-rbb



date: 95- -



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