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Date: 95-10-01a
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Re: Black Holes VS. HURRICANES
From: tracer@best.com (Roger M. Wilcox)
Date: 1995/10/01
MessageID: 44mh71$ln2@shell1.best.com#1/1


references: <Pine.3.89.9509270120.E17348-
0100000@sawdust.cvfn.org> <DFMyA9.HKB@cs.dal.ca>
organization: Best Internet Communications, Inc. (info@best.com)
newsgroups: sci.astro

In article <DFMyA9.HKB@cs.dal.ca> ai557@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Jeffrey A.
Harvey) writes:
>Robert McElwaine (rem5@sawdust.cvfn.org) wrote [snipped!!!]:
>: satellite photographs of HURRICANES. How much mass is at the
>: center of a hurricane? Not much! The pressure and density
>: inside the eye of a hurricane are MUCH LESS than they are
>: outside the eye. [snip]
>: What you REALLY have at the center of each galaxy is NOT
>: a "black hole", but instead the EYE of some kind of
cosmic
>: HURRICANE. [snip]
>
>Outside a hurricane is air at 1 atmosphere pressure.
> Inside a hurricane is air at a lower pressure.
>Outside a galaxy is a good vacuum.
> Inside a galaxy is *even less*? I must be confused...

No, no, silly, don'tcha get it?

Outside a galaxy is free Orgone energy at X
amount of concentration.
Inside a galaxy is free Orgone energy at a lower
concentration.

Or, maybe it's not Orgone energy, maybe it's
Alfven's plasma or the old
Static Ether or Phlogiston. See? THAT'S What Robert "I have an
alternative
theory so therefore I'm a genius" McElwaine was saying.


--
tracer@best.com (Jeff Boeing) - A.K.A. - rogerw@robadome.com (Roger
M. Wilcox)
----------------- I'm not flying fast, just orbiting low ---------------------
MSTie #38808 | "I'm trying to remember -- there were an awful lot of
| casualties that day." -- Kup, _The Transformers: The Movie_



Date: 95-10-15a
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Subject: An Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds, ...
From: tracer@best.com (Roger M. Wilcox)
Date: 1995/10/15
MessageID: 45rtv1$dc@shell1.best.com#1/1
organization: BEST Internet Communications, Inc.
newsgroups: sci.skeptic
summary: nitpick review


I just picked up James Randi's _An Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds, and Hoaxes of the Occult and Supernatural_ (St. Martin's Press, New York, 1995, ISBN0-312-10974-1).

Now, I have great respect for this man. I was thoroughly impressed by the depth of the research he put into _The Mask of Nostradamus_ (although there was one aside about acupuncture in that book, which seemed unwarranted). The dust jacket flaps in this latest _Encyclopedia_ purport it to be
"scrupulously researched."

So I was rather shocked when I read several glaring errors in a couple of sections of this work -- errors that are consistent with "myth"- like misinterpretations of the subject matter when I've heard other people
repeating uninformed hear-say about them.


For instance, in the section on "hypnotism," Randi states: "Anton Mesmer, who gave his name to an early version of hypnotism, 'mesmerism,' played with the notion of animal magnetism...". In truth, Mesmer never, ever practiced any form of hypnotism. Hypnotism was invented by one of Mesmer's students, who may or may not have gotten the idea from Mesmer's theories of animal magnetism. It is unfortunate that the term "Mesmerism" survives to this day, or that it isn't at least called "Mesmer's student what's-his-name ism".

The section on "orgone" is also riddled with flaws. Randi claims that Reich continued to sell orgone accumulators after the 1954 FDA injunction, when in fact he did not (he was charged with violating the injunction because one of his colleagues transported the parts to an orgone accumulator box across state lines). His summary of Reich's orgone theories is also missing some crucial pieces (such as the photos and the very-reproducible "oranur" experiment) which put his theories and practices in an unnecessarily bad light. The whole article on this subject reads more like an FDA press release than an honest-to-goodness investigation of the topic (unlike Randi's very thorough research into Geller and Nostradamus); I'd recommend Myron Sharaf's _Fury on Earth_ (St. Martin's/Marek, New York, 1983, ISBN 0-312-31370-5) as perhaps the most objective treatment on this very-hard-to-be-objective-about subject.
Finally (I haven't perused anywhere nearly the whole volume, so this is the only other omission I've noticed so far), the "acupuncture" entry mentions none of the statistical, controlled experiments that HAVE been performed on the subject, or the studies in the early 1980's investigating the possibility that acupuncture can stimulate the release of endorphins in the brain, or (in the subsection where he talks about using the ear as a "homunculus") that dentist guy I saw on _That's Incredible!_ who uses a clothes pin on the earlobe to anesthetize the patient's teeth for drilling. (Er, not that _That's
Incredible!_ is all that, well, credible.)

--
tracer@best.com (Jeff Boeing) - A.K.A. - rogerw@robadome.com (Roger M. Wilcox)



date: 95-10-25aa

1995 The Daily Telegraph plc, October 25, 1995

HEADLINE: Science:
How can people still fall for cranky daydreams? Wilhelm Reich believed his Cloudbuster, right, could change the weather. Jane Blumberg assesses a man who used science to dignify his ideas

BYLINE: By JANE BLUMBERG

BODY:

ON A HILL in the north woods of Maine stands a device out of a Buck Rogers movie. A series of long metal pipes with a mass of curling tubes and wires point menacingly at the sky. A few yards away lies a massive field-stone pillbox surmounted by a larger-then-life bronze bust of a man. Thus the majestic tomb of Wilhelm Reich, psycho-analyst, sexologist, and scientist , is guarded by one of his most flamboyant inventions - the Cloudbuster. To scientists, Reich will for ever remain at best a harmless crank, at worst a high priest of the most dangerous kind of pseudo-science or non-falsifiable hypotheses - that is, hypotheses which are impossible to disprove but which patently breech the laws of physics. The Cloudbuster is a perfect illustration: Reich believed he could use it to change the weather by manipulating the levels of "orgone energy" in the atmosphere and made detailed observations to prove it. To the scientific community, however, the observations and the idea of orgone energy itself are figments of an eccentric, perhaps lunatic imagination. Some of Reich's disciples gathered recently in the remote corner of New England where he and his cosmic anti-aircraft gun ended up. They have come to the hills and lakes of Rangeley in western Maine to mark the anniversary of the founding of the Wilhelm Reich museum. To them, most conventional scientists are too blinkered to be able to understand Reich's achievement. What we need, says Mary Higgins, the museum's director, are qualified scientists capable of going beyond their training. In fact the few qualified scientists who have bothered to study Reich agree with James Randi, the prominent debunker of all things mystical, who describes Reich as a classic nut, a quack operator, who sought to dazzle with the trappings of real science. But even if the man himself can be dismissed, scientists are still left with the puzzle of why so many people are attracted to figures such as Reich. Irrationality is flourishing; polls show that superstition and belief in the supernatural are still powerful forces in the collective psyche. And the proliferation of television programme such as The X Files and The Other Side only help to blur the distinction between real science, pseudo-science and mysticism. Reich's own history is itself a strange journey from conventional science to the other side. He graduated from the University of Vienna medical school in 1922 and as a protege of Freud made contributions to psycho-analysis which, though controversial, are still considered valuable by some. Reich stumbled across orgone energy while studying the human orgasm. He came to believe that sexuality held the key to all humanity's problems (he makes Freud look like a prude). He not only developed theories of orgastic potency and sex-economy, but also founded Sexpol, a sexual-political movement. By the early Forties he was well beyond the pale; a review by Martin Grotjahn of Reich's book, The Function of the Orgasm, was entitled Nuttier Than a Fruitcake. Yet despite the ridicule, Reich still had enough admirers to enable him to finance and build the Orgone Energy Observatory or Orgonon, in Rangeley. Today Orgonon is the Wilhelm Reich Museum, dedicated to explaining his life and work. The laboratory exhibit at Orgonon is a supreme parody of real scientific research. Here Orgone Energy is the great panacea, curer of all ills from cancer to drought. The Orgone Energy Field Meter promises to light a bulb if a recently killed fish is placed inside. The Orgone Accumulator box boosts the vitality of blood cells (it also inspired Woody Allen's Orgasmatron in the film Sleeper). Services at Orgonon seem a little ad hoc; an ancient refrigerator hums on the front porch of the museum office and cosy locals act as guides, but the flow of visitors averages 1,000 during the summer. This year is the 35th anniversary of the museum's opening. Mary Ellen the tour guide is a typical believer: Reich was a genius, she maintains. And what about orgone? Oh yes, there's definitely something there, she enthuses, and volunteers that she uses an orgone blanket to ward off colds. She is a teacher of maths and science at the local high school. Many of the visitors also seem impressed by what they see. To James Randi, their credulity is proof that there is still a widespread hunger for magic which is itself a protest against the sterility of everyday life. According to Stuart Vyse, chairman of the psychology department at Connecticut College, people cling to superstition because it helps them cope with uncertainty. But pseudo-science also relieves us of the intellectual burden of scepticism; it is easier to believe than not to believe. However, if this brief history of Reich proves anything, it is that you cannot keep a good crank down. The Internet is alive and squirming with Orgone info for a new generation of followers: PORE, the Public Orgonomic Research Exchange, is crying out for contributions. Does anyone want a working Cloudbuster? As advertised on the Net, it's yours for $ 10,000.

LANGUAGE: ENGLISH

LOAD-DATE: October 25, 1995

LEVEL 1 - 2 OF 334 STORIES

Here is an unusual volunteer opportunity that benefits you as well as benifiting others.

Betty Hoxie, acting liaison director of the Maine Foster Parent Association, wrote to inform us that, for several years, MFPA has provided foster families with a one-week summer camp experience, chosen lottery-style, at Tamarack Cabin on Dodge Pond in Rangeley through a joint project with the Wilhelm Reich Infant Trust Fund.

This year, the program benefited eight foster families.

In addition to that experience, MFPA was able to offer three condominiums at Saddleback Mountain in Rangeley to three families for one week each, thanks to the volunteer sharing by condo owners.

MFPA hopes to expand this particular summer programso more foster children and their families may experience a fun-filled summer vacation together.

Hoxie writes that "private camp owners, condo owners or people who have homes available during the school summer vacation time who would like to donate a week or more stay to the MFPA" may call 1-800-734-3909.

She adds that foster parents sign a waiver of liability releasing owners from any accidents which might occur during their stay, and agree to pay for any damage. MFPA has 501c(3) status, so condo donations are tax-deductible.

This new program may be a bit unusual, but what a great idea.

We hope it catches on.

The Standpipe, Bangor Daily News, P.O. Box 1329, Bangor 04402; 990-8288.

LOAD-DATE: October 23, 1995


Date: 1995/10/26
Subject: Re: energetic and body-therapies
From: lochness@mail.aracnet.com (Mellennesse Mountain)
Date: 1995/10/26
Message-Id: <46oruv$oib@cobweb.aracnet.com>
References: <46nbs1$g5a@deimos.rz.uni-Osnabrueck.de>
Organization: Heather Mountain Ginger Ale
Mime-Version: 1.0
Reply-To: lochness@aracnet.com
Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy

In article <46nbs1$g5a@deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de>, 
bierbrauer@luce.psyche.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE says...
>
>
>Hello!
>
>Does anyone know something about energtic therapies and therapies based on 
>body-work developed before 1950? I am in research for alternative healing 
>and will be lucky about every hint.
>Thanx very much!
>
>Heiner Gehring
Well, you might look into energetics:

1.  Reiki, developed in Japan in, I believe, the late 1800's.
2.  Orgone therapy of Wilhelm Reich.
3.  Japanese Seiki-Jutsu.  See The Shamanic Healer, by Osumi and Ritchie, 
Healing arts press, Rochester, Vermont, 1988.
4.  Tribal arts of many places.

Body therapies are numerous.  Here are  a few which address psychological 
states as well as physical:

1.  Acupuncture and Acupressure, Chinese arts.
2.  Homeopathy and Bach flower remedies.
3.  I believe Moshe Feldenkrais started writing before 1950?  Alexander 
Technique?

...there's a few, anyhow.  I'm curious about what you're looking into and why. 
 I'm a shaman's apprentice, myself.  
Ness



Date: Sat 95 oct 28)--------21:46:00 -0500
Re: Official Science Thread
From: tallthin@irs.com (Tall Thin Jones)
Organization: Information Retrieval Service
Newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca

-= > Quoting Ravenn@ix.netcom.com to Tall Thin Jones < =-

> You see, this is exactly the kind of thing I was complaining about.
> People who believe Duesberg, or Reich, or other labelled scientists are
> labelled themselves, and are subjected to the double standard.

Ra> NOw I need some clarification. Seriously!
Ra > Yes people who believe in people who have been shown to be
"false
Ra > prophets" let's say, do get labelled. Welcome to planet earth and
the
Ra > human race! People who like Tony Bennet get labelled. People
who
Ra > like Brad Pitt get labelled. This list could go on and on.

Ra > But what do you mean by the double standard?'

The double standard is what you have just subjected me to. Your
only proof is your own assertion that Deusberg is a "false prophet" and
you justify labelling me. I don't get to do that to you without
receiving a bunch of BS, so I call that a double standard.

... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


Date: Sun, 95 Oct 29 ----18:36:51 GMT
Re: Official Scienc thread
From: ravenn@ix.netcom.com (ROSBF)
Organization: Keeper of Dakota, Cat from Hell
Newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca

tallthin@irs.com (Tall Thin Jones) gave us this to ponder:

 >  Ra >  But what do you mean by the double standard?'

 >      The double standard is what you have just subjected me to.  Your
 > only proof is your own assertion that Deusberg is a "false prophet" and
 > you justify labelling me.  I don't get to do that to you without
 > receiving a bunch of BS, so I call that a double standard.

You are making the assumption that I have labelled you.  I apologize
if you feel that I have and I apologize for causing you this distress.

I do not "justify" labelling you.  But you have quite obviously
labelled me but fear to express is due to "BS" you will receive.


There is no double standard.  You think I label you and then you label
me.  Equal.

The thing is that you believe everyone thinks and operates the way you
do.  So therefore you believe everyone is meeting your differing
opinion with anger, mistrust and hatred.  

I thought we were having a discussion about science but this thread is
becoming more and more a private communication between you, DeLaughter
and me, and I am not sure it is relevant to a.r.w.

I suggest we move it to e-mail if you wish to continue.

If not let's just say You and I agree to disagree.  I'll easily state
I have no idea where you are coming from and I can safely say the
reverse is true.


R.



Date: 29 Oct 1995 19:10:41 GMT
Re: Official Science Thread
Date: 29 Oct 1995 19:10:41 GMT
From: jed@juand.earth.nwu.edu (John DeLaughter)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Newsgroups: alt.religion.wicca
References: 1 2 3


ravenn@ix.netcom.com writes:

< SNIP! >

> I thought we were having a discussion about science but this thread is
> becoming more and more a private communication between you,
DeLaughter
> and me, and I am not sure it is relevant to a.r.w.
>
> I suggest we move it to e-mail if you wish to continue.

If Tall Thin Jones would rather continue the discussion as private e-mail,
than I have no objection. I'll hold off responding to hir last post
until Tall Thin Jones has a chance to respond to your suggestion.

John DeLaughter




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