PUBLIC NEWSGROUPS SEARCH FOR ORGONE 1996 MARCH

ORGONOMY INFO IN NEWSGROUPS
(keywords = orgon, orgone, orgonomy, wr, cloudbusting)
(Deja news search we thank you)

(Editor note: The messages and items found in this search include negative and positive statements towards orgonomy. Some negative statements demonstrate the one sided and mechanistic view by individuals. Some other statements are broadcasted one liners by those who have never investigated what they have chosen to judge negatively. These negative and unsubstantiated statements are part of what Wilhelm Reich would consider as "the emotional plague of mankind". Some however are just orgonomy information or exchange. We post what we find in the searches. We leave it up to the reader to form their own opinions concerning what we found on the news groups.)

Most recent item is listed last. Long items occasionally edited to show only text related to - orgone.


date: 96-03-14aa

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Orgone energy device
From: J ENT REKEN@msn.com (JOSH ENTREKEN)
Date: 1996/03/14
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Looking for plans for Orgone energy concentrator(?) I believe a set 
was published in one of the REsearch books a couple of years ago.  I 
am also looking for info on TOPY and OTO.    
Remember, "The Magicians of tomorrow will be armed  with 
mathematical theory, organized observation, and experimentally-verified 
practice." 
             
A.C.  from Magick

jentreken@msn.com



date: 96-03-14ab

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Re: Orgone energy device
From: mole nsis@cris.com (Robert J. Maiolo)
Date: 1996/03/14
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JENTREKEN@msn.com (JOSH ENTREKEN) wrote:

>Looking for plans for Orgone energy concentrator(?) I believe a set
>was published in one of the REsearch books a couple of years ago. I
>am also looking for info on TOPY and OTO.

The best book I've seen is DeMeo's Orgone Accumulator Handbook. It runs about $13. It includes plans, epxeriments, and results of hisresearch.

On O.T.O. get a hold of Equinox Vol III # 10. Available from Weiser Publishing. It includes all the founding documents of the order, essays on its core beliefs and some damn fine poetry.

Let me know if you need help finding these books.

Robert J. Maiolo, Fr. P.F.D.V. 110, IIo O.T.O.



date: 96-03-17aa

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Jimmy Page interview by William Burroughs from June 75 issue
From: debaser@moon.dataplusnet. com
Date: 1996/03/17
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I got this interview from the July, 1986 issue of "Guitar World". It's
a "SPECIAL COLLECTOR'S ISSUE" featuring Jimmy Page. Many great interviews.
The following originally appeared in the June, 1975 issue of Crawdaddy.

corey
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THE JIMMY AND BILL SHOW
by William Burroughs

   When I was first asked to write an article on the Led Zeppelin Group, to
be based on attending a concert and talking with Jimmy Page, I was not sure
I could do it, not being sufficiently knowledgable about music to attempt
anything in the way of musical criticism or even evaluation. I decided
simply to attend the concert and talk with Jimmy Page and let the article
develop. If you consider any set of data without a preconceived viewpoint,
then a viewpoint will emerge from the data.
.....................................
THE INTERVIEW

   I felt that these considerations could form the basis of my talk with
Jimmy Page, which I hoped would not take the form of an interview. There is
something just basically WRONG about the whole interview format. Someone
sticks a mike in your face and says, "Mr. Page, would you care to talk about
your interest in occult practices? Would you describe yourself as a believer
in this sort of thing?" Even an intelligent mike-in-the-face question tends
to evoke a guarded mike-in-the-face answer. As soon as Jimmy Page walked
into my loft downtown, I saw that it wasn't going to be that way.

   We started talking over a cup of tea ..........

   We talked about Wilhelm Reich's orgone accumulator, and I showed him
plans for making this device, which were passed along to me by Reich's
daughter. Basically the device is very simple, consisting of iron or steel
wool on the inside and organic material on the outside. I think this was
highly important discovery. Recently a scientist with the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration announced an "electrical cell" theory
of cancer that is almost identical to Reich's cancer theory put forth 25
years ago. He does not acknowledge any indebtedness to Reich. I showed Jimmy
the orgone box I have here, and we agreed that orgone accumulators in
pyramid form and/or using magnetized iron could be much more powerful.....



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Effects of ElectroMagnetic Fields?
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EMF, ELF AND COLD WAR NUCLEAR GUINEA PIGS
By Jim Martin
January 1994
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We're ALL Test Subjects...

As I sit in front of my two-page computer screen display I am bathed in electromagnetic fields measuring 15 milligauss. It has become common knowledge that video display terminals (VDTs) emit harmful electromagnetic fields, but it is less well known that there are much stronger sources of these fields in and around the places we visit each day. Electricity is so omnipresent in our society that it quite discomfiting to imagine that this ocean of electromagnetic fields may harm our health. In his book, _Currents of Death_, (Simon & Shuster, NY, 1989)
author Paul Brodeur consolidates recent research into the long-term effects of continuous exposure to high-power electromagnetic fields. He also discusses the antagonism of utility companies, the electronics industry and the military towards such research, eerily reminiscent of the suppression of evidence that low-level exposure to nuclear radiation was more perilous than previously believed during the 1950s. Yet the issue remains: there is an identifiable and not-yet-understood link between long-term exposure to these fields and serioushealth problems.

For instance, in 1974 a researcher in Colorado named Nancy Wertheimer tried to discover common factors in children who had died of leukemia by obtaining their addresses from the Colorado Bureau of Vital Statistics. Without looking for any one factor in particular, she noticed that many of these houses were located along the trunk lines stepping down from power line transformers. Leukemia rates dropped off sharply in houses further removed from the main trunk lines. Digging into the issue further, she discovered that workers in occupations which exposed them to continuously high electromagnetic fields had developed cancer at a significantly higher rate than the rest of the population.

An orthopedic surgeon with the US Veteran's Administration, Dr. Robert O. Becker also became convinced of the health hazards associated with electromagnetic fields. He had been investigating the effects of minute electrical currents on wound-healing in salamanders. (Animal lovers may want to turn their heads at this point.) After amputating one of their limbs, Becker found that the salamanders were able to regenerate that limbs when stimulated by tiny electrical impulses. Pursuing this research, he found that electrical stimulation speeded up the
rate of healing seriously broken bones in humans. While his research was met with derision because current medical orthodoxy has no explanation for such small electric impulses having any biological effects, today we see the embodiment of this research every Sunday on televised NFL games; if you see, on the sidelines, an injured player hobbling on crutches that have a strange-looking black box attached to them, you are seeing a
healing technique developed by Dr. Becker. Players call it "getting stimmed." Becker had strong evidence of the biological effect of electromagnetism, both beneficial and malignant, from his research with salamanders. He was concerned about long-term exposure, but when he spoke out he was removed from his position with the Veteran's Administration. His discussion of this freezing-out is in his excellent book _The Body Electric:
Electromagnetism and the Foundation of Life_ (with Gary Selden, William & Morrow Co., NY 1985). It is a useful discussion for anyone who wants to understand how medical research functions today. Ideas inconsistent with medical orthodoxy and corporate/government interests are quickly killed by cutting of grant money.

Since there is no practical way to shield one's self from an electromagnetic field, the only protection possible is to limit one's exposure. For people in many occupations, however, this is impossible. For instance, clerks at check-out stands are bathed in a high-power energy field measuring over 200 milligauss that emanates from the laser bar-code reader at waist-level. The distinction between safe and dangerous levels of exposure have not yet been determined, but epidemiologist David Savitz published a study 1986 that replicated Nancy Wertheimer's study in Colorado and found that children living near transmission lines and subjected to exposures of only 2.5 milligauss developed cancer at a rate 40% greater than other children. Despite evidence such as this, many power companies have set "safe" standards of emissions from transformers and power lines at 100 milligauss. Even at that high level of "safety" the check-out clerks at our supermarkets are exposed to twice the
acceptable dose, for eight hours a day. When I approached a woman at the local supermarket to measure
the emissions from her check-out stand, her face registered shock when the field meter I was using leapt off-scale. "So that's why I'm always so nervous," she said. Since we have no organ to sense changes in our
electromagnetic environment, it is often hard to notice over-exposure. Signs include nausea, blurred vision, a metallic taste in the mouth, and headaches. Electric blankets should be used under no circumstances, since they emit 13-15 milligauss. Both the symptoms and the diseases associated with exposure to magnetic fields are consistent with the late Dr. Wilhelm Reich's research into cancer. He identified something he called
"oranur sickness" which, like radiation poisoning, was experienced as a metallic taste in the mouth, headaches, nausea and blurred vision. One of the hallmarks of this oranur sickness is that each organism reacts in its own way to it, as it attacks the "weak point" in a biological system. For instance, one might come down with an especially acute attack of asthma without thinking any but "oh, there's that old asthma again" without
noticing what triggered it. It is this feature of oranur sickness that complicates the epidemiology of magnetic fields. Since symptoms and health breakdowns vary from person to person, orthodox scientists can dismiss any common factor especially subtle ones such as low-level exposure to radiation, toxic chemicals, and electromagnetic fields. Thus, when I interviewed residents of Dunsmuir, CA, who have been recently exposed to
toxic fumes resulting from a train derailment into the nearby Sacramento River, they reported being told by medical workers at the local hospital that their symptoms were "all in their heads."

However, levels of electromagnetic radiation in our environment can be measured if not directly sensed. Using a
small Trifield meter (available from Natural Energy Works, POB 864, El Cerrito, CA 94530) which measures magnetic field, electric field, and radio/microwave field strength in the ambient atmosphere, I took readings around Fort Bragg and Mendocino at the common stops along a typical day's business. I was surprised that in some locations, readings were far lower than expected, such as those next to the transformer located next to the Mendocino Elementary School, while other locations had far higher readings than I would have expected, such at the bank teller's window. Here are some sample readings. Safe, background levels of magnetic fields that are consistent with the earth's normal emissions are around 0.5 to 1.0 milligauss (MG). Borderline readings occur at 1.0 to 3.0 MG, and high levels begin at 3.0 MG. (Readings are in milligauss.)

Automobile
: driver's seat:......... 7
: passenger seat:... 4
: back seat:............. 2
Main St., Ft. Bragg...............:...................... 0.5
Macintosh Plus VDT:................................ 15
Automatic stamp machine at post office:. 8
Automatic Teller Machine:......................... 8
Arcade Video Game:................................ 100
Xerox Machine:........................................ 100
Safeway refrigerated isle:........................... 8
Harvest Market meat case:...................... 75
Harvest Market fish case:......................... 4
Bar Code Reader at check-out:............. 200
Big River Substation (elementary school):. 0.5-7

These random measurements clearly show that it is virtually impossible for any of us to remove ourselves from an ongoing, uncontrolled experiment to test the limits of safe exposure of EMF. The parallels between this situation, where "informed consent" is a meaningless slogan, can be readily found in the new disclosures surrounding Cold War radiation testing. It might be useful, at this point, to revisit those days, when a "voice
in the wilderness" spoke out against "safe" levels of nuclear radiation: Wilhelm Reich.

What, in the final analysis, brought the wrath of the U. S. government down upon Wilhelm Reich, M.D.? Space does not allow a full discussion of Reich's biography, but those interested won't find a better place to start than
with Myron Sharaf's _Fury on Earth_. There were many dangerous aspects to Reich's work, from advocating children's sexual rights, or his thorough analysis of the patriarchal family in fascism and its roots in the emotional character structures of everyday people, and even his invention of the orgone accumulator(1). In my view, Wilhelm Reich was imprisoned because he stumbled onto frightening facts about nuclear radiation
during the early 1950s, a critical point in that newly developed industry.

Simply put, Reich found that there is _no shielding possible_against the biological effects of nuclear radiation. On January 5, 1951, in what was called the Oranur Experiment, Reich placed a minute sample (1 milligram) of radium inside a powerful orgone accumulator. Reich's shocking report, which can be found in the now out-of-print _Selected Writings_, details how radiation sickness is a function of the organism's response to the
invasive insult, and not a direct result of the radiation poisoning itself. Thus different people may be more susceptible to very minute doses(2), while others may feel no noticeable effects; each person's reaction is different according to their own emotional and biological structure.

It will be recalled that there was little understanding of the biological effects of radiation in the 1950s. Many people remember that soldiers were sent directly into test sites shortly after the dust cleared from nuclear explosions. They wore no protection and were merely dusted off afterwards. At this writing (January, 1994) the U.S. Department of Energy has released many documents about the true nature of America's nuclear heritage. Dept. Secretary Hazel O'Leary has offered full disclosure about the years of chronic abuse of an unwitting
population of human guinea pigs by the scientific establishment and the military. So far, reports have focused on the more insane and fascistic injection of human beings with plutonium without informed consent. Less has been reported about the facts that first came out: that throughout the forties and fifties the military dropped radioactive dust over vast areas of the Western States. To put this into perspective, the military essentially
turned each of us into a huge cohort of experimental subjects in an on-going test of the biological effects of radiation poisoning. President Clinton has distanced himself from Dept. of Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary, who authorized the release of new information, characterizing her forthcoming posture as "very emotional".

There is little public understanding today of the true nature of Reich's research. However, the military, as of 1948, was fully advised of his findings. Indeed, the AEC provided Reich with the radium samples he used in the Oranur Experiment. When Reich first discovered the specifically biological energy he called orgone, he waited before
publishing until he verified the phenomena under a variety of experimental protocols. One such experiment, "TO-T", measured the temperature difference between an orgone box (constructed with alternating layers of metal and wood which create an enclosed field of concentrated orgone), and a similarly constructed box that
lacked the metal lining, but had the same capacity for insulation. An orgone box is generally warmer than the outside temperature, and the temperature difference decreases as the atmosphere contracts before a storm.
Albert Einstein was one person who found the question intriguing enough to invite Reich to his home to demonstrate the effect. Reich had written him a cautious letter in the hopes that this "Father of the Atom Bomb" would recognize that the experiments proved an exception to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, the law of entropy, which requires that equal volumes tend to equalize in temperature. Reich traveled to Princeton with several devices with which to demonstrate the orgone energy. He described his long session with Einstein as a meeting of minds. Einstein observed the phenomena, and said, "If this is true, it would be a bombshell for Physics." Einstein met once again with Reich and then suddenly dropped the matter. Einstein's biographers have painted this meeting in a ridiculous light, saying it was an example of Einstein's eccentricity. Perhaps, but their exchange of letters, which Reich published later, belies this assumption.(3)


This is important to remember: whatever the validity of Reich's conclusions, _the phenomena he observed_, which alone stand in stark contrast to any high school physics text, _was in fact real, corroborated and sustained against objections_. The FDA launched a multi-million dollar investigation of the orgone accumulator, declared it a fraud, and set about bringing criminal proceedings against Reich. Reich's FBI files reveal a blistering blizzard of letters directed towards getting rid of Reich from doctors in the AMA, ministers of Christian youth
crusades, and one from the Atomic Energy Commission advising the FDA what "a thorn in the side" Reich had been. Reich never sold more than 500 copies a year of any one of his self-published books while he was alive. That an obscure, new line of research posed such a threat to the medical establishment is on its face inconceivable. Reich had first made contact with the Atomic Energy Commission on April 30, 1948, to discuss unusually high Geiger counter readings in connection with his orgonomic research. It would still be three years
before Reich embarked on the Oranur Project, a controlled experiment dealing directly with the biological effects of radiation poisoning. In between, Reich kept the AEC completely informed of his research via meetings, letters and phone calls, as he grew closer and closer to an essential national security issue (i.e., keeping the public in the dark about the real danger associated with radioactivity), while simply trying to figure out why he was getting such unusually high readings on his Geiger counters.

In re-reading his original documentation, I was impressed with Reich's ability to distinguish between observed facts, corroborated by others; new theories drawn from and supported by these facts; and finally speculation based upon insufficient evidence. Of utmost importance in his research method was an awareness of the attitude of the observer, basic trust in one's own perceptions and observations. Although he alerted them when his Geiger counters told him something was amiss, he did not trust the response offered by the AEC: don't worry, everything is fine. In this as in other matters he seems to have been virtually alone.

Reich's intent for the Oranur Experiment was to investigate the treatment of radiation sickness with the orgone
accumulator. For years, he had success in treating terminal "lost-cause" cancer patients with the medical device although he never claimed having found a cure, as the FDA would charge. Since it was well known that radiation sickness could lead to leukemia, Reich planned to investigate the matter at his laboratory in Rangeley, Maine.
As Oranur research progressed, it was decided to test the effect of orgone-charged radium on lab mice in
comparison to untreated radium. In preparation for this, a sample of radium was placed in a 20-layer accumulator. After five hours, Reich subjectively noticed a change in the atmosphere, which he described as heavy and oppressive. This subjective change was verified when Geiger counters in the room went off-scale.
Workers in the area suffered all the classic symptoms of radiation poisoning. They had discovered the Oranur Effect. When the radium sample was removed from the accumulator, it was placed in a steel-and-concrete safe away from living quarters. Yet the noxious effects, as well as abnormally high Geiger readings persisted in the accumulator and the room in which it was situated. It was as if the atmospheric orgone had "run amok", as Reich put it, concluding that the placement of the radium inside the accumulator had set off an atmospheric chain-reaction which persisted long after it had been removed. The next morning, the mice were dying even though they were in an adjacent room, and Reich awoke with a full-body tan in the dead of a Maine winter.

Reich would subsequently state that "it is the organismic OR [orgone] energy within living bodies which
continues to react to the NR [nuclear radiation] material for months and even years." In checking background counts around the safe in which the orgone-charged radium had been disposed, he discovered a more disturbing phenomena: that the steel and concrete enclosure itself comprised an orgone accumulator and that the Oranur effect was still evident. It's hard to discount Reich's documentation of all this, given the complete records and
corroboration of his coworkers. He found a persistent, overcharged atmosphere continuing long after the experiment had been concluded. _The New York Times_ (2/3/51) reported that there were unusually high background radiation levels recorded from Rochester, New York to Canada during the last week of January.

There was a bright side. Both the experimental mice that had survived and the workers involved with the project exhibited full recovery and more: they were far better able to withstand the effects of radiation in subsequent work. Reich had found what he was looking for. There were positive indications that Reich had found a method of _immunizing against the effects of radiation_. By then, the FDA was mounting its case against Reich, aimed
first at silencing him on the question of orgone energy. He had been ordered by the FDA and federal courts to cease distribution of the orgone accumulator. When an assistant, Dr. Michael Silvert, transported the devices across state lines, he and Reich were charged with the violation of the court injunction. Unbelievably, the 59 year-old scientist, researcher, and teacher was sentenced to two years in prison and, as with many people his age, this proved to be a death sentence.

The rest of the story is now known. It's estimated that it will cost $200 billion to clean up after the nuclear testing of the Cold War. But are we all participating in a new experiment to establish safe levels of electromagnetic fields?

Chronology of Radiation and Biowarfare Testing Disclosures Through 6/1/94

1942-1946
Dr. Joseph G. Hamilton at University of California Hospital in San Francisco proposes a radioactive aerosol as a
military weapon. Tests lethal-dose exposure on terminal patients. One of the "terminal patients" had been misdiagnosed; he only had an ulcer. (L.A. Times 2/8/94)

1945
Miami, FL; radioactive needles placed in Army private'snostrils.

Vanderbilt University Medical Center; 751 late-term pregnant women given radioactive water 30 times background radiation at a free clinic. (L.A. Times 2/8/94)

1948-1952
12 "battlefield radiation" tests conducted over Tennessee and Utah. Air Force drops radioactive cluster bombs
dispersing as much as 15,000 curies in open-air fallout tests. (L.A. Times 12/16/94)

1950
San Francisco: ships spray city with bacteria from offshore. (NYT 2/25/94)

1951
Virginia: Aspergillus fumagatus, a lethal bacteria, released upon workers, mainly black, at Norfolk Naval Supply Center. (L.A. Times 2/8/94)

1953
Nationwide test: 235 newborns and infants injected with radioactive iodide. In Memphis, 6 of 7 newborns selected were black. No one kept track of the subjects, who are now 39 or 40 years old. (St. Louis Post Dispatch 12/25/93)

1954
Marshall Islands: Navy moves its ships and personnel when it learns of a wind change prior to above-ground testing. Fails to relocate native islanders as well.

1956-1986
Chico, CA: 140 tons of hot shit (radioactive dog feces) accumulates at DOE facility (aka UC Davis Laboratory for
Energy-Related Health Research, also known as the "Beagle Club"by former workers) near UC Davis, where 1,200 beagles were fed, injected with, and exposed to radiation, including tritium. One worker has claimed that the sewage system has at times overflowed into Putah Creek, near Lake Berryessa. (L.A. Times 2/8/94)

1957
Eskimos in N. Alaska, few of whom spoke English at the time, were given an apple and an orange for their participation in Army tests to inject them with radioactive iodine. (L.A. Times 2/8/94)

British smuggle radioactive debris in a diplomatic pouch on regular commercial airline.

1963-1990
34 underground nuclear tests in the U.S. release radiation into the atmosphere.

1966
Massachusetts: Retarded children at the Fernald School in Waltham given low-dose radiation in their cereal.

1953-1965
1500 military personnel given LSD by US Army Chemical Corps.

1968
Nerve Gas agent kills 6,000 sheep in Utah. (NYT 2/25/94)

1973
Prisoners in Oregon and Washington agree to have theirtesticles dipped in radioactive water for $5.00 a week.

1993
Russia, Arzamas-16; elite Vympel (Pennant) commando units stage a "terrorist attack" and quickly seize nuclear bomb factory, to test security at Soviet Military facilities. Vympel also thwarted an attempt to steal fissionable material from a plant in the Urals. However, when Vympel refused President Boris Yeltsin's order to storm the parliament house in October, 1992, they refused and talked the opposition out instead, which was seen as a capitulation. Yeltsin transferred Vympel under the control of the Interior Ministry, whereupon the majority of commandos resigned their commissions.

1994
Rep. Lane Evans (D-Ill.) asked the White House to investigate any radiation testing that may have been done on US troops during the Gulf War.

Chernobyl nuclear power station declared unsafe by the International Atomic Energy Association. Officials now admit that thousands died in the blast, and the subsequent clean-up takes up 12% of the Ukranian national budget. (Reuters 3/31/94)

To date: An estimated cost of $200 billion to clean up after the nuclear research of the Cold War, nationwide.

30 deaths from Hanta viruses, long a focus of military biowarfare researchers.

There remains no independent scientific or ethical review of human testing conducted by military and intelligence researchers.

The Department of Energy funds 175 human test studies involving 725,000 people. (AP 4/5/94) The Nuclear Regulatory Commission reports that it licenses as many as 200 of the largest medical institutions in the country to conduct human research. (AP 2/3/94)

Notes:
(1) For a full discussion of current experimental evidence concerning the operation of the orgone accumulator and its beneficial use in healing see The Orgone Accumulator Handbook, by James DeMeo, PhD., Natural Energy Works, POB 864, El Cerrito, CA 95430
(2) A former worker at the San Onofre Power Plant sues over a rare form of leukemia 1/94. Since she had never
been exposed to levels of radiation deemed "unsafe" by the Department of Energy, and having a cancer which has been positively linked to radioactive exposure, the issue the court must decide is whether any level of exposure can be deemed "safe."
(3) Reich, W. The Einstein Affair. Orgone Institute Press, Maine, 1953.
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Date: 1996/03/19
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alt.feminism,alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.conspiracy

=>>In <msbDoGDqw.8w@netcom.com> msb@netcom.com 
(Mark S. Bilk) writes: 
=>>>
=>>>In article <4ifjh4$bil@cloner4.netcom.com>, Hanson 
=>><rhanson@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
=>>>
=>>>Interested readers will find related information in the books
=>>>_The Mass-Psychology of Fascism_ by Wilhelm Reich, and _The Chalice 
=>>>and the Blade_ by Riane Eisler, both highly recommended.

You guys are getting a little overwrought. So why don't you have a
little sit-down in one of Wilhelm Reich's 
"orgone boxes"? 

You might also invite author William S. Burroughs - practitioner of
unsafe sex, killer of his wife by handgun, and author of "Junkie" 
-
who I read is even to this day a devotee of Reich's discredited
crackpot theories. Burroughs apparently spends much time in his
"orgone box", summoning up the ethereal and luminescent powers of the
orgasm (Reich's key contribution to the the body of Western
rationality and knowledge).

Oh, wasn't it sad that Reich was so unfairly "harrassed" by the
authorities for purveying his ridiculous theories and devices to the
feeble-minded and gullible? He died in the federal pen in 1957.

And, did I neglect to mention that in his latter years Reich compared
himself to Socrates and Jesus Christ in explaining his own pathetic
"martyrdom"? Or his sound conviction that the "CORE 
Men" - cosmic orgone engineers - had been visiting us from other 
planets? 

Well, you see where such revelatory insights will get you in this
hardhearted and closeminded world. 

=>>Thank you for this.  I'll take a look at the books.  The snarling is
=>>just more of that right wing open-mindedness we've heard so 
much
=>about.

I just bet you'll take a long hard look at Reich. But you're right
that you won't find much openmindedness here. 

Hanson has thus far offered-up in defense of his bizarre political
convictions: (EXHIBIT A) the lunatic, half-baked _Journal Of
Psychohistory_ and (EXHIBIT B) the insane scribblings of convicted
felon Wilhelm Reich. I don't know who Riane Eisler might be, but I'll
just bet she's another way-out-there doozy of a "psychologist". 
Does she also have a criminal record?

Hanson, with intellectual "resources" such as Reich and _The 
Journal Of Psychohistory_, I don't think you're in any apparent danger of
colliding with The Weekly World Nooze. You've put pedal to the metal
and left it crippled and panting in the dust of your full-bore lunacy.

Most importantly, I'm beginning to understand why you think the
"suicide note" is legitimate; why Bonnie and Clyde Clinton are
martyred innocents; and why you believe yourself to be a 
"liberal":
you've simply exhausted yourself from all that banging on the inside
door of your "orgone box." 

You are getting more pathetic with every passing hour. Wilhelm Reich
would understand your plight.



date: 96-03-24aa

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                                    BROWN4.ASC
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             This file shared with KeelyNet courtesy of Woody Montier.
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       Vangard Note..

          This file  brought  up  a  curious  comment  regarding a possible
          correlation between stock market  fluctuations  and  some kind of
          planetary correspondence  that  could  be  detected  by  Townsend
          Browns' Electrometer,   an   electrostatically  energized  device
          suspended in oil.

          Further information regarding  this  effect  is taken from File :
          24-185, Subject  :  Special  Inquiry  into  "The  Townsend  Brown
          Electro-Gravity Device", a Comprehensive Evaluation by the Office
          of Naval   Research,   with   accompanying  documents,  dated  15
          September 1952.
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            from the Los Angeles Times - Tuesday Morning, April 8, 1952

                       Flying Saucers 'Explained' by Men of
                           New Research University Here

       Two metal-plexiglass disks suspended  from  a  central  pylon  swung
       through slow circles in a darkened room yesterday as spokesmen for a
       new university sought  to  convince  newsmen  they have  solved  the
       flying saucer mystery.

       "We have hesitated  to  divulge  our  findings,"  said  Mason  Rose,
       president of the University for Social  Research, "because they read
       too much like science fiction..."

       Substance of the  alleged  discovery, credited to Inventor  Townsend
       Brown,  is that saucers operate in a field of "electro-gravity" that
       "acts like a wave with the negative pole at the top and the positive
       pole at the bottom."
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                               Travel Like Surfboard

       "The saucer travels  like  a surfboard on the incline of a wave that
       is kept continually  moving  by the  saucer's  electro-gravitational
       generator," explained Bradford Shank, third spokesman  for the group
       claiming knowledge "almost too sensational, too spectacular."

       All three men   are   convinced   that   flying  saucers  are  real,
       "controlled by an intelligence rather than a pilot" and capable of
       speeds up to that of light - 186,000 miles a second.

       Their research is  new and novel, they insist, and "it is distinctly
       improbable it has   been  duplicated   anywhere   in   the   world."
       Experiments coupling electricity and gravitation that  apparently go
       even beyond Einstein's unified field theory.

       Asked about official  government  study of their findings, Rose said
       details had been given to "some Navy  admirals" but as yet there was
       no censorship.  He talked guardedly about military "interest" in the
       work but declined to mention specific agencies.

       He spoke too  about  the early trials and tribulations  of  Marconi,
       Edison and the  Wright  brothers.   The  three men said space travel
       will be possible within 10 years.

       At one point Shank was asked if he had a degree.
       --------------------------------------------------------------------
                              "Superior Intelligence"

       "No," he acknowledged, "I'm free of  those encumbrances.  That's why
       I find it  so  easy  to  talk in these new terms."  To  all  deadend
       questions there was  the  answer, "A superior intelligence thousands
       of years ahead of ours would have many answers we don't know about."

       For more than four years Brown has  been  attempting  to predict the
       ups and downs  of  the  stock  market with electronic  apparatus  he
       installed in the  basement  of  a building on S. Spring Street.  His
       equipment, he said, registers small variations in sidereal or cosmic
       rays which bombard the earth from outer space.

       These rays, in  some  yet  unexplained   manner,  are  suspected  of
       influencing human psychology.  Brown declined to say  how  his stock
       market "barometer" has worked.
       <END>
       --------------------------------------------------------------------
          (source as noted from the title page of BROWN4.ASC on KeelyNet)

       Confidential Security Information

                An Investigation relative to Thomas Townsend Brown
                               by Willoughby M. Cady
                        Office of Naval Research, Pasadena

                  (a possible clue as to the construction of his
                    electrogravitic detector mechanism follows)

       2.4  There has  been  briefly  inspected  a third electrical device,
       purporting to be  a  communication   equipment  operating  on  waves
       related to the   electrogravitic  effect.   It  appears   that   the
       transmitter is simply  a  relaxation oscillator consisting of a high
       tension DC power supply, a high (value)  resistor,  and  a condensor
       which periodically discharges through a short gap.

       The receiver, shown in Figure 2, consists of two Pyranol  capacitors
       0-5mf, two titanium oxide capacitors 500mmf, a Brush recorder, and a
       bypass capacitor 0.1mf  to  prevent  the  recorder from oscillating.
       Two terminals in  the  circuit  are   charged  as  indicated  before
       reception and left floating during reception.

       The bridge of four capacitors is housed in a cabinet, indicated by a
       dashed line, which  forms  an  obviously  imperfect  shield  against
       electromagnetic radiation, when the  transmitter  is  operated in an
       adjoining room, the Brush recorder jumps with each spark.  Mr. Brown
       states that the  effect  is  present,  but  reduced,   if  the  25KV
       potentials are not applied.

       If the Pyranols are short circuited and removed, the effect is still
       reported present.  No   attempt   has   been   made   at   conscious
       electromagnetic shieldings of   either   the   transmitter   or  the
       receiver.  In the writer's opinion the response may be the result of
       a chance rectifying contact.

       The relation between  the  communication device and  the  mechanical
       effects which form  the topic of this report (levitation) appears so
       remote that no further mention will be made of the former.

           Figure 2                 ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
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                                    ³       ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ
                                    ³        ÄÄÄÄÄ
            Unshielded              ³         ÄÄÄ
              Enclosure--|          ³
                        \|/         ³
          ³-------------------------³---------------------------³
          ³                         ³                           ³
          ³              ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿                ³
          ³              ³                     ³                ³
          ³       .5mf =====                 ===== .5mf         ³
          ³        cap   ³                     ³    cap         ³
          ³              ³                     ³                ³
          ³ -25KV *ÄÄÄÄÄÄ´                     ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ* +25KV  ³
          ³              ³                     ³                ³
          ³              ³                     ³                ³
          ³     500mmf =====                 ===== 500mmf       ³
          ³              ³                     ³                ³
          ³              ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ                ³
          ³                         ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿          ³
          ³                    ÚÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄ¿           ³          ³
          ³                    ³ Brush   ³         ===== .1mf   ³
          ³                    ³ Recorder³           ³          ³
          ³                    ÀÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÙ           ³          ³
          ³                      ÄÄÄÁÄÄÄ          ÄÄÄÁÄÄÄ       ³
          ³                       ÄÄÄÄÄ            ÄÄÄÄÄ        ³
          ³                        ÄÄÄ              ÄÄÄ         ³
          ³-----------------------------------------------------³

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       The Brown Electrometer

       5.0  In a small thermostated room  in  the  second  basement  of the
       Banks-Huntley Building, (address censored), Los Angeles,  there is a
       continuing experiment which   shows   an   extension  of  the  basic
       phenomenon.  This apparatus is the Brown Electrometer.

       This device is  housed in an oil-filled  tank  of  half-inch  steel,
       perhaps two feet in diameter and a foot deep, with a half-inch steel
       cover.  In the  tank  there is suspended a horizontal  disc  12"  in
       diameter and one inch thick, made of six segments of pine wood
       alternating with six  of  marble  around an 8" hub of Bakelite.  The
       sections are separated by 1 X 2 X 1/16 inch copper strips.

       Alternate strips are grounded to a central metal stem supporting the
       disc which is attached to a music-wire suspension 0.018" in diameter
       and 6-3/8" long; the remaining copper  strips  connect  to a central
       iron tit at the center of the hub, which dips into a cup of mercury.

       The disc is surrounded by a grounded metal shield which  is attached
       to the tank  and  which  stands at a clearance of 1/2 inch above and
       below the disc and 1-1/2 inch radially;  this  shield  is  centrally
       perforated at the top and bottom for the suspension and the tit.

       A sequencing device in a cabinet below the tank causes  a  half-wave
       smoothed DC power  supply  to  impress  upon the mercury cup a well-
       regulated negative potential  of   11.1KV  resulting  in  a  leakage
       current of 0.45ma.   The  sequencer  leaves the voltage  on  for  30
       seconds, causing the disc to rotate several degrees.

       After 30 seconds,  a  short  spark  is  made  to  jump  from a point
       projecting about 9 inches horizontally  in  air from the stem of the
       disc, and perforates  a  rice-paper  strip wound  on  a  drum  which
       rotates once each  day.  The voltage is then turned off and the disc
       returns to its relaxed position,  which  is  recorded  by a separate
       spark.  The cycle  repeats  every  three  minutes.    The  apparatus
       appears to be well engineered and extremely reliable.

       5.1  Mr. Brown   has  given  attention  for  several  years  to  the
       variations in the deflections of  this  electrometer.   On the spark
       record the rest  position is 50 units and the deflected  reading  is
       about 80.  Until  about  a  year and a half ago (written in 1952, so
       estimated mid 1950),  the  deflected  position  was  about  20,  but
       suffered a gradual change to its present value at that time.

       Aside from reversal  of sign, the deflection undergoes  fluctuations
       whose character is  less dramatic but still large, e.g. 10-50%.  The
       cause of these fluctuations has been  sought by Mr. Brown by seeking
       for correlations between  them and various outside influences,  such
       as magnetic storms,  temperature,  pressure,  the  time of the year,
       civil time, lunar time, siderial time, and the Dow-Jones average.

       Only the last five correlations are  claimed.   Tabulated  data  are
       available only for the year 1937.  Hourly recordings  throughout the
       year are tabulated, for both civil and lunar time.

       The writer has seen no convincing evidence that the stock market and
       the automatic record  are  correlated, although it is claimed that a
       chi-square analysis has been performed, with POSITIVE RESULTS.

       (the tables are intentionally not  included  in this file since they
       simply furnish data, if you wish a copy of the tables  as taken from
       the document, drop us a line here at KeelyNet)

       5.3  By the  foregoing  sketchy  analysis of the data from the Brown
       Electrometer, the following conclusions are implied:

           a)  Through the weeks and months the data drift significantly;
           b)  There is NO evidence of a solar diurnal period synchronizing
               with the sun, as claimed by Brown.
           c)  There is NO evidence of a lunar diurnal period synchronizing
               with the  moon,  as  claimed by Brown.  On the contrary, the
               data appear most emphatically to deny such a period.

       5.4  Two related experiments have  been described by Mr. Brown which
       throw light on the reason for the deflections if not  on  the reason
       for their fluctuations.

       5.4.1  In one,  the sector disc was held stationary while a grounded
       metal disc was suspended over it  in  the  oil,  by a torsion fibre.
       When the sector disc was charged a motion of the  adjacent  oil  was
       noted by Mr.  Brown.   The  suspended disc deflected, but not when a
       glass plate was interposed between the sector disc and the suspended
       disc.

       5.4.2  The other related experiment concerns an oil-immersed annulus
       described by Mr. Brown as 2 feet in  diameter  and six inches thick,
       made of LEAD OXIDE (PbO) and paraffin in eight segments separated by
       eight copper strips alternately charged positive and negative.

       By means of  a  probe  the potential distribution  on  the  PbO  and
       parrafin surfaces was  explored  and  it  was noted that whereas the
       gradient was uniform across the edges of the lead oxide sectors, the
       gradient on the parrafin was steepest near the negative electrodes.

       This observation means that the steepest  gradients  ARE  ALL IN THE
       SAME DIRECTION, e.g.  CLOCKWISE.   It  was  also   noted   that the
       application of high  voltage to the electrodes of this disc caused a
       lively motion of the oil.
       --------------------------------------------------------------------
       8.4  (see paragraph 5)  The disc of  the Brown Electrometer shown in
       Figure 5, develops a torque in response to an applied  voltage.  The
       field in the  oil  is strongest in the regions A. B. C. D. where the
       oil is in contact with the electrodes  separating the pine sectors P
       from the marble sectors M.

             (circles are almost impossible to draw in ASCII, but here
             goes since you really need to see the diagram - KeelyNet)

            Figure 5                DA                      P - Pine
                             /-------|---------\BC          M - Marble
                        BC \    M    |   P     / \
                         /   \     __|__     /     \DA
                    DA \   P   \ /   +   \ /   M  /  \
                     /   \     /         - \    /      \
                    |  M   \ / +           + \/        |
                    |       |                 |   P    |
                CB  |-------| -             - |--------|BC
                    |  P    | +             + |   M    |
                    |     /  \               / \       |
                      \ /  M   \ -   +   - /     \   /
                    AD  \      / \ ______/ \  P    \AD
                          \  /   P   |   M   \   /
                         CB \________|_________/CB
                                    AD

                        The Rotor of the Brown Electrometer
           (note between each P and M section, the alternating charges)

       Positive ions formed at the electrodes as in a corona discharge will
       produce positive space  charges at the regions A. & D. while regions
       B. & C. will have negative space  charges.   In  the  oil these will
       cause effects analogous to the electric wind in air.

       If the fields A. B. C. D. are equally strong the ion  densities will
       be such as  to  give  no net torque to the disc.  We will assume, on
       the other hand,  that the surface  of  the  pine  sectors  allows  a
       leakage current; this will have the effect of reducing  the field in
       the regions A.  &  B. and will leave the regions C. & D. dominant in
       the production of force.

       The positive ions at D. will TEND TO ROTATE the disc CLOCKWISE while
       the negatives will tend to rotate  it counterclockwise.  Since their
       mobilities differ there  will be a net torque in one  or  the  other
       direction, as observed.

       If the chemistry  of  the oil or the insulating sectors changes with
       the surface conductivity of the marble could become larger than that
       of the pine, causing a reversal of  the  torque.  Aside from surface
       conductivity, other attributes may distinguish the  marble  from the
       pine.  For example, a net torque might be caused by the influence of
       different dielectric constants  from  the  field distribution, or if
       alternate sectors all project slightly beyond the electrodes.

       A net torque  may  result  from or  be  influenced  by  the  surface
       conductivity of the pine and marble.  If one is more conductive than
       the other, the  field  pattern  will  be  made  unsymmetrical   (see
       paragraph 5.4.2 above) and the torque will be altered.

       It is possible  that the slow fluctuations in the Brown Electrometer
       are caused by changes in the surfaces.   The faster fluctuations may
       be caused by particles suspended in oil, which may  temporarily rest
       at such points as A. or B., changing the corona there temporarily.

       8.5  The experiment  reported  in  paragraph  5.4.1,  would  seem to
       corroborate the idea that a swirling  of the oil is essential to the
       operation of the  electrometer.   This idea is in  accord  with  the
       electric wind theory, whether or not the discussion in paragraph 8.4
       is valid in detail.

       8.6  It is  claimed  that  the  deflections of the electrometer show
       certain periodicities.  If these  are  real  they show inadequacy of
       the electric wind  hypothesis.   Their reality is  assessed  in  the
       crude and preliminary   analysis  contained  in  paragraph  5.2  and
       summarized in paragraph 5.3.

       There is no manifest solar diurnal  period  and  no  manifest  lunar
       diurnal period.  No  test has been applied for the claimed  siderial
       diurnal period or  for  the  correlation with the value of financial
       securities.

       Neither has it been possible to determine  whether  the slow changes
       in deflection are  repeated  annually as claimed; however  the  fact
       that the deflections  once  annually  permanently reversed direction
       would seem to discourage this claim.

       This reversal is attributable to changed surface conductivity of the
       sectors of the disc.  It is concluded that the short study
       (paragraph 5) of  the  readings  of  the Brown Electrometer does not
       weaken the hypothesis  that  all   the  (censored:  probably  reads,
       "phenomena reported by Mr. Brown") are the result of electric wind.
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       Vangard Note

          We had  a call from a Mr. Paul Stowe relating  the  use  of  lead
          oxide by  Brown  in  the  construction  of his "gravitator". Mr.
          Stowe thinks a layered version  of  this lead oxide might be used
          to construct a "collector" as postulated by Bearden  in his paper
          "The Final  Secret  to  Free  Energy"  and  listed on KeelyNet as
          FREENRG3.ZIP.

          The following refers to the thrust  developed  in  one experiment
          but the interesting point is the description of  the construction
          of the condenser dielectric.

       "The condenser dielectric  was  either  homogenous or laminated.In
       one laminated version, 10,000 sheets  of  0.001  inch lead foil were
       separated by an  equal  number  of  3  X 3" sheets  of  0.0008 inch
       cellulose acetate in   a   formica   box   (sounds  like an orgone
       accumulator to me),  to  make  10,000   condensers   in   a   series
       arrangement weighing 10kg."

       "The acceleration exhibited by this device when suitably  mounted is
       claimed to have  been  2.5cm per sec^ (where the symbol ^ = squared)
       when the electrodes were charged, evidencing a force of 25,000 dynes
       or about 25gm; the homogeneous type  is  stated by Mr. Brown to have
       had comparable thrust.   The force was usually TOWARD  the  positive
       electrode, although in  some  units it was toward the negative; this
       effect was attributed to a "polarization"."

       "The force is stated to have been STRONGER at some time than others,
       correlating with the  position  of  the  sun  and  moon.   Data  are
       displayed which relate to the angular speed of a pivoted gravitator,
       and which show half a dozen large fluctuations in  a  day;  some  of
       these can perhaps  be  construed as being dips simultaneous with the
       rise or setting of the sun or moon."
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Reich, Eisler, And The Origin Of Human Suffering (was: WAYNE MANN AND "JOHN Q. PUBLIC"--COVERT RIGHT-WING CENSORS
From: msb@netc om.com (Mark S. Bilk)
Date: 1996/03/25
MessageID: msbDotsxL.136@netcom.com
sender: msb@netcom14.netcom.com
references: <4icng3$90u@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <4iju60$t0s@reader2.ix.netcom.com>
<4ikocd$6gn@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <314eb166.92034527@news.agate.com>
organization: Cosmic Church of the Orgone Goddess
newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.fan.newt-gingrich,
alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.dear.whitehouse,alt.president.clinton,talk.politics.guns,alt.feminism,
alt.activism,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.conspiracy,alt.pagan

In article <314eb166.92034527@news.agate.com>, Garry N. Ray
<gnray@nxi.com> wrote:
>=>>In <msbDoGDqw.8w@netcom.com>
msb@netcom.com (Mark S. Bilk) writes:
>=>>>
>=>>>Interested readers will find related information in the books
>=>>>_The Mass-Psychology of Fascism_ by Wilhelm Reich, and _The Chalice
>=>>>and the Blade_ by Riane Eisler, both highly recommended.

>the ethereal and luminescent powers of the
>orgasm (Reich's key contribution to the body of Western
>rationality and knowledge).

Reich made several contributions; what he called "the physical Orgone energy" is only one. While the existence of this pheno-menon is still uncertain, there has been a lot of evidence, accumulated in many different types of experiments, that something is going on in this area that cannot be accounted for within the conventional paradigm. Personally, I have experienced a definite sensation from a type of orgone apparatus, which was
not otherwise explainable.

Another of Reich's discoveries was the existence, in people and animals afflicted with cancer, of certain unusual bacteria. These were found independently (without knowledge of Reich's work, as far as I know) by Dr. Virginia Livingston and other physicians and scientists, who found them to have a causal relationship to the disease.

But Reich's most significant contribution was the discovery of the cause of much of the emotional illness, and almost all the social problems, of humankind today. It is a contagious and pandemic disease that he called "the Emotional Plague". It is passed from each generation to the next, not by pathogenic microorganisms or genetic deficiencies, but by domineering, restrictive, anti-sexual treatment of children by parents and other adults. In individuals, the disease consists of an inability to breathe and move freely, and an inability to fully experience feelings (especially tender feelings of pleasure, joy, love, and compassion), along with an obsession to dominate and hurt others.

The resulting social consequences are a hierarchical power structure, male supremacy, hatred of homosexuals, greed, exploi-tation, racism, bigotry, and the mass murder of many tens of millions of people ("war"). Reich named this group of phenomena the "Emotional Plague". These are the same characteristics correctly attributed to conservatives by RHanson in his article.

Reich's discovery that these phenomena are due not to inherent human nature, but to a contagious emotional illness, certainly ranks as one of the most important in human history. He was not the first to work in this area, but the depth and complete-ness of his analysis made it much more useful than the previous work.

Interested readers can find more information, and a source for Reich's books, at these Web locations:

http://www.mcn.org/cbc/Bussect/Flatland/reichbks.html
http://www.mcn.org/cbc/Bussect/Flatland/DeMeo1.html
http://www.mcn.org/cbc/Bussect/Flatland/flatland.html

Reich, a psychologist, became aware of the disease when he found that the aforementioned destructive emotional characteristics in his patients could be minimized by getting them to relax, breathe, have a fulfilling sexual relationship, etc. He conceptualized this as changing from an "armored" to an "unarmored" mode
("muscular armor" being the chronic tension of muscles resulting from inadequate breathing and deep inner fear and rage). Later he identified the effects in the society at large that were caused by serious armoring in individuals.

Decades after his work, an entirely independent line of research was undertaken, beginning with the work of archaeologist Marija Gimbutas, and continued by cultural historian Riane Eisler. They observed that entire *cultures* existed in either of two modes, which they called "Dominator" and "Partnership". Dominator cul-
tures had a hierarchical power structure, evangelistic and intol-erant religions, male-supremacy, xenophobia, war, genocide, etc. (in other words all the characteristics of the Emotional Plague), while Partnership cultures did not.

These researchers were eventually able to trace how the Dominator cultures spread around the world, destroying the Partnership cultures (along with many of the people who lived in them). The very existence of Partnership cultures proves that domination, male-supremacy, xenophobia, and war are culturally programmed, and *not* part of human nature. See these excellent books:

_The Chalice and the Blade_, by Riane Eisler, 1988, ISBN 0-06-250-289-1, HarperSanFrancisco, $13.

_Sacred Pleasure: Sex, Myth, and the Politics of the Body_, by Riane Eisler, 1995, ISBN 0-06-250293-X, HarperSanFrancisco

>=>>>In article <4ifjh4$bil@cloner4.netcom.com>,
Hanson <rhanson@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>=>>Thank you for this. I'll take a look at the books. The snarling is
>=>>just more of that right wing open-mindedness we've heard so much
>=>>about.

>Well, you see where such revelatory insights will get you in this
>hardhearted and closeminded world.

>I just bet you'll take a long hard look at Reich. But you're right
>that you won't find much openmindedness here.

Hatred of what is gentle and true is unfortunately a standard response of many conservatives. But there are those who still question whether blame, restrictions, and punishment are the only possible remedies for social and personal problems.

The programming of domination and fear of pleasure in childhood takes a somewhat different course for each child, and some people retain or recover the ability to take in new information during their lives. So some people reading this may take a look at those books, and discover that many strange and troubling aspects of the world around them have a readily understandable (albeitunexpected) origin.

Note that Reich's analysis of individual and social problems, including fascism (much of which is now called "conservatism" in the U.S.), has little or no connection with his ideas about Orgone energy. Whether or not that energy exists, the pandemic contagious emotional illness definitely does exist, and is visible in people and social institutions all around us once it is pointed out.

The transmission of this disease from generation to generation isn't mysterious either; it occurs by the same simple process that causes molested children to sometimes become molesters themselves--chronic emotional trauma causes emotional illness, and certain types of emotional illness eventually motivate the person to inflict similar trauma on others, particularly children.

Such a self-replicating illness has been called a "memetic virus", by analogy to genetic (biological) and computer viruses. All three are essentially *patterns of information*, which use humans, living cells, and computers, respectively, to reproduce themselves. Further information on Memetics is available here:

http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/MEMIN.HTML
http://www.nada.kth.se/~nv91-asa/Trans/memetic_page.html
http://www.hok.no/marius/memetics/index.html

>Oh, wasn't it sad that Reich was so unfairly "harrassed" by the
>authorities for purveying his ridiculous theories and devices to the
>feeble-minded and gullible?

His patients were in no way feeble-minded, and reported that the therapy helped them. His colleagues included numerous physicians and scientists with excellent credentials and experience, who used the same techniques, as appropriate, to treat themselves and their families.

>He died in the federal pen in 1957.

Reich was imprisoned for disobeying an order of the Food and Drug Administration against renting his anti-cancer devices; the Federal government also burned all of his books, even those that didn't mention orgone energy.

The same FDA is attacking people today for selling anti-oxidants and other life-extension substances. For example, it continues to ban the sale of the amino acid tryptophan, most likely because, as a safe, effective, and inexpensive sleep aid, it used to compete with the costly and profitable sleep drugs marketed by drug companies. Many executives and scientists of these companies regularly switch back and forth between jobs at those firms and jobs with the FDA.

The agency has also tried several times to ban the sale of all vitamins in amounts larger than the small quantities that they decree are necessary. If they had been successful, millions of extra deaths would have resulted from heart disease, that were prevented by using sufficient amounts of vitamins C and E. And many billions of dollars more profit would have been made by drug companies selling symptomatic cold remedies, if people had
been prevented from taking adequate vitamin C.

>And, did I neglect to mention that in his latter years Reich compared
>himself to Socrates and Jesus Christ in explaining his own pathetic
>"martyrdom"?

His explanation was correct. The people who murdered Reich, Jesus, and Socrates were motivated by the same social/emotional disease--the same one that causes *you*, Garry, to hate and deride anyone (such as liberals) who examine and talk about the real causes of social problems.

>Or his sound conviction that the "CORE Men" - cosmic
>orgone engineers - had been visiting us from other planets?

He believed, rightly or wrongly, that flying saucers (which have been observed by many people with impeccable credentials and reputations, such as military and civilian aircraft pilots and police) were powered in some way by Orgone energy. They are certainly powered by *something* that we are unable to duplicate.

>Hanson has thus far offered-up in defense of his bizarre political
>convictions: (EXHIBIT A) the lunatic, half-baked _Journal Of
>Psychohistory_ and (EXHIBIT B) the insane scribblings of convicted
>felon Wilhelm Reich. I don't know who Riane Eisler might be, but I'll
>just bet she's another way-out-there doozy of a "psychologist". Does
>she also have a criminal record?

Garry, it's a shame that Joe McCarthy is dead--you would have had a ready-made career with him as a smear-artist, er... speech-writer. I think your best bet now is the _American Spectator_magazine; your ability to make up really derogatory lies about people you don't like, and then blithely pass them off as the truth, is just the kind of talent they're looking for.
--
The Modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy, that is, the search for a superiormoral justification for selfishness.
-- muwjt@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (William Taney)

A boy asked his mom what a Republican is; she said "it's someone who doesn't like to share!" -- johnb@frye.frye.rain.com (John Burwell)

The threat of powerful adults without any sense of generosity toward other people, the sort of people who decide that poverty is mainly the fault of people who are poor and that nobody is discriminated against - that is a threat to the future.
- Stephen L. Carter, _The Culture of Disbelief_
-- laurence@netcom.com (Andrew Laurence)



date: 96-03-26aa

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Thoughts on Reich, viruses, static electricity
From: blaine@freenet.ed monton.ab.ca ()

Date: 1996/03/26
MessageID: 4j8rak$rl0@news.sas.ab.ca
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Mark S. Bilk (msb@netcom.com) wrote:

: Reich made several contributions; what he called "the physical
: Orgone energy" is only one.  While the existence of this pheno-
: menon is still uncertain, there has been a lot of evidence,
: accumulated in many different types of experiments, that
: something is going on in this area that cannot be accounted for
: within the conventional paradigm.  Personally, I have experienced
: a definite sensation from a type of orgone apparatus, which was
: not otherwise explainable.

He also claimed a connection between orgone and static electricity.  The
common term "life energy" is much the same as Reich's orgone, but it
does not seem to be energy, in its scientific definition.  Perhaps it's a
form of negentropy which can organize various forms of energy (static
electricity, bio-electro-chemical processes, weather and climate).

A few years ago, some scientists (details unknown) used a newly-invented
microscope that can "see" static electricity.  They found many surprises,
such as non-homeogeneity, which implies there is some sort of organizing
principle.

: Another of Reich's discoveries was the existence, in people and
: animals afflicted with cancer, of certain unusual bacteria.
: These were found independently (without knowledge of Reich's
: work, as far as I know) by Dr. Virginia Livingston and other
: physicians and scientists, who found them to have a causal
: relationship to the disease.

Reich called them T-baccilli.  Cancer researchers have long suspected that
retroviruses (which are not the same as bacteria) might be a cause - but
their actual discovery is unknown to me.  Details, please?

: But Reich's most significant contribution was the discovery of
: the cause of much of the emotional illness, and almost all the
: social problems, of humankind today.  It is a contagious and
: pandemic disease that he called "the Emotional Plague". 

On a related note, William S. Burroughs considered Christianity to be an 
actual (or metaphorical) virus, a true parasite living only to reproduce
and find more hosts.

: The resulting social consequences are a hierarchical power
: structure, male supremacy, hatred of homosexuals, greed, exploi-
: tation, racism, bigotry, and the mass murder of many tens of
: millions of people ("war").  Reich named this group of phenomena
: the "Emotional Plague".  These are the same characteristics
: correctly attributed to conservatives by RHanson in his article.

Not just conservatives.  Liberals have it too, and are often less
conscious of it than conservatives.  (Elworth Baker, in _Man in the
Trap_, pointed this out.)  Reich himself noticed the EP inside
European communist parties, and eventually withdrew from all politics, 
both "left" and "right".

: These researchers were eventually able to trace how the Dominator
: cultures spread around the world, destroying the Partnership
: cultures (along with many of the people who lived in them).  The
: very existence of Partnership cultures proves that domination,
: male-supremacy, xenophobia, and war are culturally programmed,
: and *not* part of human nature.  See these excellent books:

Again, the virus principle.

: Such a self-replicating illness has been called a "memetic virus",
: by analogy to genetic (biological) and computer viruses.  All
: three are essentially *patterns of information*, which use
: humans, living cells, and computers, respectively, to reproduce
: themselves.  Further information on Memetics is available here:

See my comments on Burroughs.

: The agency has also tried several times to ban the sale of all
: vitamins in amounts larger than the small quantities that they
: decree are necessary.  If they had been successful, millions of
: extra deaths would have resulted from heart disease, that were
: prevented by using sufficient amounts of vitamins C and E.
: And many billions of dollars more profit would have been made by
: drug companies selling symptomatic cold remedies, if people had
: been prevented from taking adequate vitamin C.

That is very poor capitalism.  If the drug companies (and FDA) were 
not afraid of competition and new ideas, they could have made millions
from vitamins and other supplements.

P.S.  Check out the Doctor Who episode, "The Evil of the 
Daleks".
It has many (unintentional) Reichian concepts in it!

Reply by e-mail preferably, please.
             
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BLAINE GORDON MANYLUK                email: 
blaine@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
EDMONTON, AB




date: 96-03-31aa

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Re: Reich, Eisler, And The Origin Of Human Suffering (was: WAYNE MANN AND "JOHN Q. PUBLIC"--COVERT RIGHT- WING CENSORS

From: petrich@netco m.com (Loren Petrich)
Date: 1996/03/31
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In article <msbDotsxL.136@netcom.com>, Mark S. Bilk
<msb@netcom.com> wrote:
>In article <314eb166.92034527@news.agate.com>, Garry N. Ray
<gnray@nxi.com> wrote:
>>=>>In <msbDoGDqw.8w@netcom.com>
msb@netcom.com (Mark S. Bilk) writes:

>>=>>>Interested readers will find related information in the books
>>=>>>_The Mass-Psychology of Fascism_ by Wilhelm Reich, and _The Chalice
>>=>>>and the Blade_ by Riane Eisler, both highly recommended.

I'm not familiar with the first one, but I think the second one is a very interesting one, even if to be taken with a grain of salt (I sometimes think that Ms. Eisler oversimplifies a bit here and there).

And check out Ms. Eisler's new book _Sacred Pleasure_.

>>the ethereal and luminescent powers of the
>>orgasm (Reich's key contribution to the body of Western
>>rationality and knowledge).

>Reich made several contributions; what he called "the physical
>Orgone energy" is only one. ...

Call me an uptight Western rationalist, but I have a hard time taking orgone energy seriously.

>But Reich's most significant contribution was the discovery of
>the cause of much of the emotional illness, and almost all the
>social problems, of humankind today. It is a contagious and
>pandemic disease that he called "the Emotional Plague". It is
>passed from each generation to the next, not by pathogenic
>microorganisms or genetic deficiencies, but by domineering,
>restrictive, anti-sexual treatment of children by parents and
>other adults. In individuals, the disease consists of an
>inability to breathe and move freely, and an inability to fully
>experience feelings (especially tender feelings of pleasure, joy,
>love, and compassion), along with an obsession to dominate and
>hurt others.

Inability to breathe and move freely? I wouldn't endorse that, even though I think that there is a lot to be said for the other stuff.

>The resulting social consequences are a hierarchical power
>structure, male supremacy, hatred of homosexuals, greed, exploi-
>tation, racism, bigotry, and the mass murder of many tens of
>millions of people ("war"). Reich named this group of phenomena
>the "Emotional Plague". These are the same characteristics
>correctly attributed to conservatives by RHanson in his article.

>Reich's discovery that these phenomena are due not to inherent
>human nature, but to a contagious emotional illness, certainly
>ranks as one of the most important in human history. He was
>not the first to work in this area, but the depth and complete-
>ness of his analysis made it much more useful than the previous
>work.

I'd give him more credit for the description than for his "discovery" of the cause -- it seems to me that cross-cultural studies are what really suggest culture-dependency.

In _Sacred Pleasure_, Ms. Eisler asks the question of how this "emotional sickness" got started, and she suggests various traumatizing events, such as droughts. She also suggests that it becomes
self-perpetuating because of its effects on upcoming generations -- a sort of cultural virus.

>Decades after his work, an entirely independent line of research
>was undertaken, beginning with the work of archaeologist Marija
>Gimbutas, and continued by cultural historian Riane Eisler. They
>observed that entire *cultures* existed in either of two modes,
>which they called "Dominator" and "Partnership". Dominator cul-
>tures had a hierarchical power structure, evangelistic and intol-
>erant religions, male-supremacy, xenophobia, war, genocide, etc.
>(in other words all the characteristics of the Emotional Plague),
>while Partnership cultures did not.

That either-or dichotomy is IMO very simplistic -- it's more like a continuum.

And one thing that is a problem is how to organize large-scale societies. Egalitarianism is relatively easy for small ones, though maintaining it in large ones can be different. However, there is usually no trouble managing large-scale societies on authoritarian principles.

> _The Chalice and the Blade_, by Riane Eisler, 1988, ISBN
> 0-06-250-289-1, HarperSanFrancisco, $13.

> _Sacred Pleasure: Sex, Myth, and the Politics of the Body_,
> by Riane Eisler, 1995, ISBN 0-06-250293-X, HarperSanFrancisco

>Hatred of what is gentle and true is unfortunately a standard
>response of many conservatives. But there are those who still
>question whether blame, restrictions, and punishment are the only
>possible remedies for social and personal problems.

I wonder if such characters would enjoy a taste of their very own medicine; but I wonder if that would have any real effect, since they never tire of whining about being persecuted when something bad happens to them -- EXACTLY what they complain about in others.

>The transmission of this disease from generation to generation
>isn't mysterious either; it occurs by the same simple process that
>causes molested children to sometimes become molesters themselves--
>chronic emotional trauma causes emotional illness, and certain
>types of emotional illness eventually motivate the person to
>inflict similar trauma on others, particularly children.

>Such a self-replicating illness has been called a "memetic virus",
>by analogy to genetic (biological) and computer viruses. All
>three are essentially *patterns of information*, which use
>humans, living cells, and computers, respectively, to reproduce
>themselves.

You anticipated me :-)

[Reich as a martyr for his therapies...]

I'd be careful about endorsing eccentric cures and therapies, since there are lots of ways for them to *seem* to work.

>He believed, rightly or wrongly, that flying saucers (which have
>been observed by many people with impeccable credentials and
>reputations, such as military and civilian aircraft pilots and
>police) were powered in some way by Orgone energy. They are
>certainly powered by *something* that we are unable to duplicate.

I think that flying saucers are a 20th-century mythology.
--
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From: uli@zoodle. robin.de (Ulrich Grepel)
Date: 1996/03/31
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Cloudbusting:
This is based on Peter Reich's book "A Book Of Dreams" (you can see this book in the video, in Donald Sutherland's pocket). Peter writes about his experience in his youth, when Wilhelm Reich (his father) got problems with the government due to his questionable actions as a scientist. Wilhelm got arrested and died while in prison, and this experience later made the then-9-years-old Peter write "A Book Of Dreams". Wilhelm was arrested for refusing to appear at an arrangement
hearing that resulted from a lawsuit by the American FDA for selling his "orgone energy
accumulators" across state lines. The FDA said it was quackery to sell these boxes made of aluminum and wood as therapeutic devices; Reich insisted it was serious science and refused
to have anything to do with these "spurious" legal restrictions on hisresearch and therapy. Of course, he was quite mad by then - this was nearly a decade after he claimed that orgone energy was not simply the libidinal buildup that resulted from a lack of proper sexual release, but was also the substance out of which the whole universe was formed. Interestingly, several well-known people, including Norman Mailer, had orgone accumulators. More about Wilhelm Reich can be found in the file ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/rec.music.gaffa/kb/reich .
[part of this is from JAC (see credits section)]

There is no such thing as a song called Cloudbursting (regard the spelling), and there is no remix of Cloudbusting called The Meteorological Mix, despite of what EMI America wants to tell us.
EMI UK isn't really better, for the real spelling of what the world knows as the Organon Mix should have been Orgonon Mix (Orgonon was the name of Reich's home/center in Maine, Orgone energy was Reich's subject of studies). [IED]

The song name comes from hunting clouds, not from breaking them, and the remix called Meteorological Mix is from The Big Sky. There are two remixes of Cloudbusting: The Orgonon Mix and the video version.

Hello Earth:
At the end of "Hello, Earth" the German words are:
"Tiefer, tiefer, irgendwo in der Tiefe gibt es ein Licht" This means: "deeper, deeper, somewhere in the depth there is a light." They are not spoken by Kate, but by Gabi Zangerl, a friend of Kate.
The choir part of this song was inspired by Werner Herzog's film Nosferatu that features a very similar chant. Recently it became known that the chant originates from Georgia, it's a traditional lyrical song from Kakheti-Kartli, the easternmost region of the (former Soviet) Republic of Georgia, the area around Tbilisi, the capital. The song is actually best transliterated as "tsintsqaro" (At the Spring, By the Source or At the Well), a boy meets girl love song. You might find this song, also spelled as Tshintsharo or Zinzgaro, on some CDs with traditional Georgian music (eg "The Marvels of Polyphony in Sakartvelo", CD Ethnic Sound Series #17, Victor, Japan 1987).
[W, CHB]

5.7. The Sensual World

The Sensual World
This song at first should have included the original lyrics of the end monologue of Molly Bloom in James Joyce's "Ulysses", but Kate didn't get permission, so she had to rewrite them.




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