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> ... However I have read about the possibility of "electroperforation"
> of cell walls from a rife unit. You can read it at this link:  
> 
> 
http://www.execpc.com/~keephope/v2000.html

Normally Rife researchers talk about electroporation; as also commonly used for genetic engineering to introduce DNA into a cell. Yes virii DNA or bacteria plasmids could enter cells this way, as observed at the above URL. The PCR may well indicate exactly that which is described. Polymerase Chain Reaction is also used, apparently, to identify the DNA of mycoplasma microorganisms, so may well be used to identify DNA of pathogens associated with AIDS.

It is true that any downside is often glossed over by Rife alt-health enthusiasts; as is common in the alt-health arena where desperation often motivates perspectives, ie self help's clutching at straws/hope syndrome. Bipartisan presentations are often not alt health's strong point. Termed health "choice", or (informal) research, it makes it's appeal to being as minimally invasive or natural as allegedly possible, but often forgets and avoids publicizing negative outcomes such as Aime's (see this photo); or Christine's; and such as i also have personally experienced - as detailed below. More problematic is when a modality aggravates a condition. That situation is almost not perceived by some percentage, who ardently remain in pursuit of a minimally invasive health "choice" and by omission of negative publicity mislead others to do the same. Some apparently feel that conventional approaches are too invasive and therefore so implicitly offensive (emotively termed slash/burn/poison - while ignoring other very comfortable options like angio-genesis drugs) that anything else is preferable, a kind of quality of life emphasis. But when their noninvasive approach fails, or perhaps aggravates / compounds the condition, some alt health practitioners can often neglect to admit to their patients that they have passed the point of no return, for which invasive therapy is now the only option. That percentage often seem to cling to a health "choice" mantra for their patients preferred way to die, with self denial that they might possibly have aggravated a condition with their informal pseudo-research which often avoids and denies negatives. For such informal health "research" there is no reporting, auditing, or accountability required, despite venturing into risky territory using human guinea pigs. Euphemistically presenting as a quality of (remaining) life argument for patients, often their approach is associated with a (sci-fi enthusiasts) fascination with ambiguous paranormal phenomena, ostensibly or incidentally for the purpose of maintaining the practitioners quality of life style (having life or death import), while glossing over negatives by non-bipartisan self denial or indulgence. Sentimental empaths demonstrate particular susceptibility to this due to a predilection towards the way things should be rather than accepting the way they are, with which they're intuitively distressed by virtue of their often seemingly romantic nature, as expressed through remunerated health goods and services which avoid recognising negatives.

I myself had a small 4mm brown perfectly flat skin blemish, all my life, that suddenly erupted into full blown melanoma after exposure to plasma therapy, including a swollen lymph gland. You won't hear about that from Rife promoters. Fortunately electrocauterization and an enzyme/detox program has helped me to get it under control so far.

It is quite possible negative effects may not show up for a number of years -- once the immune system no longer holds the damage in check, so that runaway tumors begin to emerge (cf asbestos, radiation damage, and similar cacinogenic precedents). Those Rife researchers that have not experienced such matters are thought to have good immune systems, in contrast to many with chronic diseases. Those that do experience such matters die, so the negative publicity problem conveniently goes away, without any audit checks or accountability (which becomes at risk of medical negligence or even something akin to manslaughter). Research is allegedly informally conducted, (under supposed waivers which may not have legal standing in some cases), often without corroborating animal nor culture trials -- particularly in the case of rife research which has preferred human guinea pigs, nor with much concern about aggravating of tumors or any long term effects (such as was found with asbestos, radiation damage, and similar). A number of highly skilled researchers have walked away in despair at the lack of proper research.

Rife himself used high voltage argon plasma to culture Bx/By virus, making it substantially more virulent, when the virii could not be cultured prior to plasma treatment. The plasma electro-magnetic energy feeds cellular ATP processes so that growth is accelerated. Culture studies further indicate that when conditions aren't quite right then harm occurs rather than help. The reported "herx" experience/hits of a few rife anecdotes can be understood as a toxicity crisis brought on by stimulating pathogenic disease; as with cultures. Negative cancer cases, where people die after treatment, are largely glossed over and not widely publicized by Rife enthusiasts; kind of like the small print in a sales contract, being buried amongst the enthusiastic language, subtly railroading desperate people towards unguarded belief.

What Rife may or may not have achieved hasn't been replicated today by scientific nor Rife's own standards. Rife's less than predictable results caused problems in his day for Dr Gruner. Modern day culture studies of skilled biology researchers raise serious concerns about the likelihood of stimulating disease, particularly for those with depressed immune systems. Discussion of effects on cells considered that microorganism or simple amoeba cells are affected but that the more complex human cells are not. This assumption has not been adequately supported/confirmed with microscopic research, and the evidence indicates otherwise. There have been no adequately corroborating studies done on animals (perhaps in cooperation with a vet/spca), needed to establish efficacy and essential to prove there are no harmful side-effects; without using humans as guinea pigs (cf asbestos, radiation, and similar precedents of unforeseen harm). Crane states that Rife and he used to be able to kill worms with their devices, so cell damage can occur. My own melanoma occurred directly following plasma therapy.

Rife/plasma technology was reportedly used in some hospitals around the 1930's. Mervin Black posted details about it. These devices are no longer in use apparently. Their demise is thought to be associated with the same type of risky problems we see today for chronically weakened immune systems, stimulating pathogens and cellular ATP processes such as promotes tumor growth, frequent lack of any performance, etc.

Researchers are not publicizing their occasionally admitted failures nearly as often as they publicize those successes which are easily attributable to mixed modalities; such as essiac, even chemo/drugs, noni, normal remission, etc. Anyone familiar with the self help nature of alt-health knows that most desperate people typically take a broad spectrum of therapies/modalities. Failed modalities often result in death so bad publicity dies with the user.

This is also exactly true of the overly glamorized alt health case of the NZ boy recently mentioned on-list. The reality is that Liam Williams-Holloway went on to include other treatments in his efforts to beat unremitting severe cancer, after Rife "quantum" therapy failed him, as detailed in a magazine article and a TV report. Sadly Liam's case became so bad that he died Oct 25 2000. Even though people donated $700,000 to Liam's family, they abandoned rife therapy, and went for now unsuccessful therapy in Mexico where they had opportunity to use whatever they wished. A sadly related case, with a shockingly dreadful tumor, is that of Aime, for whom a well intentioned and honest doctor tried rife plasma therapy and other mixed modalities to no avail.

Ignorance is not bliss in such negative cases. For Rife manufacturers that continue promotion without publicizing known negatives, they become at risk of involving themselves in the equivalent of manslaughter.

People often trust them with their lives to the extent of neglecting other modalities or even stimulating disease/tumors, most notably for people with chronically compromised immune systems. (Not that conventional therapy is often an improvement, but atleast they publicize known side effects, pro's and con's, complications, etc in the doctors book of pharmaceuticals; cf contra-indications). Rife therapists leverage the shortcomings of chemo, surgery, and radiation, claiming that 5%+ or better results for mainstream means that they only need a supposed 5% to compete (while ignoring and not reporting negatives, and typical use of mixed modalities including chemo/drugs), glossing over the fact that 5% of millions of people is not the same as a supposed 1-5% of only a few thousand or so and using mixed modalities including chemo at that; especially when seriously negative results are knowingly obscured and swept under the carpet.

Crane states that Rife and he used to be able to kill worms with their devices. Capacity for cellular damage has been ignored or perhaps even swept under the carpet by enthusiasts. Perhaps this is not unlike that cellular damage correlated with cell phone use and cancer, but either way it is a matter for serious concern.

XXXX wrote: 

> Hi everyone. This is my first post on this list. I follow it as I have 
> had CFS for 7 years. I have been diagnosed with a number of viruses and 
> am considering rife treatment.(somebody locally has a unit) However I 
> have read about the possibility of "electroperforation" of cell walls 
> from a rife unit. You can read it at this link: 
>  
> 
http://www.execpc.com/~keephope/v2000.html
>  
> I'm wondering if my concerns are unfounded. I really am quite ignorant 
> about the workings of these devices. 
>  
> Thanks 
>  
> XXXX 
>  
> Electroperforation and viral infection of cells 
>  
> Several months ago, I had a conversation with the manufacturers of 
> The Silver Pulser a electrical frequency unit designed by Bob 
> Beck and based in part on the technology develop by Royal Rife of 
> using electrical frequencies to treat infections and cancer. I told 
> them that several readers with HIV had told me that the use of the 
> Silver Pulser had led to dramatic increases in their viral loads 
> for HIV as measured by PCR. The spokesman for the Silver Pulser 
> told me that since they read Christine Maggiore book on What if 
> everything you thought you knew about AIDS was wrong, that they no 
> longer believe that the HIV virus exists and that the only thing 
> PCR measures in lab results is cellular debris.  
>  
> I told them that I had once entertained the possibility of this 
> theory that PCR measured cellular debris, but had found too strong 
> a correlation between PCR viral load and AIDS progression to 
> dismiss the connection and that I had decided some time ago to give 
> quantitative PCR the benefit of the doubt. I told the spokesman 
> that I believed that the HIV virus existed, that PCR was relative 
> to amount of virus in the plasma and that HIV was the principal 
> causative agent in AIDS.  
>  
> During the conversation, the spokesman for the Silver Pulser 
> said that when the electrical current was passing through the body 
> it caused the cells to be porous and for them to dump toxins. I said 
> that is all well and fine, but when the cells are porous 
> (perforated), are they not also vulnerable to being infected from 
> viruses on the outside on the cells?
>  
> The spokesman said yes but that the perforation was for only a 
> fraction of a second. I told the spokesman that those fractions of 
> a second must have added up as the reports of big increases in viral 
> loads had come from several readers who had used the Silver Pulser. 
> When the spokesman told me that the CD4’s increased, I asked him to 
> send me the proof as the same readers had told me that their CD4’s 
> had actually decreased since using the Silver Pulser.
>  
> No proof of CD4 increases with the Silver Pulser has ever been 
> provided. In fact, last year Hulda Clark wrote me a letter and 
> acknowledged that the Zapper that she designed (runs on a 
> battery) also increased the PCR numbers in persons with HIV. 
> (Note: in conjunction with this, I would not be surprised that the 
> use of cellular phones would also lead to an increase in viral 
> activity in the head and brain area). Increases in brain tumors and 
> hearing impairment have been reported with the use of cellular 
> phones.  
>  
> Even the expensive Bio-Ray unit (based on the Rife electrical 
> frequency technology) that costs over $5000 has not been proven to 
> be safe or effective in the treatment of HIV. When I talked to one 
> person whom I had been told was cured of AIDS using the Bio-Ray 
> machine, the person told me that they were using a triple drug 
> cocktail at the same time, a fact that the marketer of the product 
> conveniently forgot to mention. In fact, the person was not cured 
> of AIDS, but has remained on the drug cocktail and uses the Bio-Ray 
> treatment as an adjunct therapy.