Leslie Desmond's Maine Clinic


FRIDAY 8/1/97


    Leslie Desmond's clinic is overwhelming. My brain is full and I know I can't remember half of what she said but I'll try to put down some observations. Getting to the feet was the main thrust. She was working with a thoroughbred, ex-racehorse. The horse at the demo hooked onto her very fast (I think it took 15 seconds). He had no right diagonal which was very obvious when he backed up since his feet would land disunited, first his back and then his front.
    She says that traditionally trained horses are use to being supported on the left hand side when people lead them so the end up with a short left side and constantly look for support and usually lack a solid right diagonal. She worked on getting him to plant his front foot and just move his hind end to get the front end divorced from the back end. (Something I am struggling with my horse, JR).. She says to stop you only have to stop one foot so she started with trying to get the horse to pivot on one foot (just like what is supposed to happen with a one rein stop). I had trouble seeing when the horse planted his foot which she gave the release for. She worked on getting him to lead, then stopping and then backing up using the lead to position the nose in front of the leg that needed to go forward or back. She says just like the swing you get with the reins when you walk your horse on a loose rein. She was doing some diagnostic work looking to see what his problems were.
    She talked about a horse in Long Island that had been beat on so much in cross ties that it was almost impossible for her to get him to move his feet. She said it was a very pathetic case although the horse had a reputation for being a great school horse but she said if the horse ever did lose it, whoever was riding it would probably be dead. She had the owner work with her horse trying to get her to send her life down the lead rope and develop a softer feel. She had the horse run into her hand a few times when he swung his head towards her (emphasizing the safety aspect where the horse needed to respect her space). She admitted one time that her timing was off and therefore incorrect.


SATURDAY 8/2/97


    A question of how to present yourself to a horse came up. Leslie answered with the fact that at times there are problems with having an agenda. She admitted that she was often guilty of this wanting to accomplish more than the horse could offer on a given day. However she did say that you need to have a plan before asking the horse to do something, such as leading him. You need to know what you want to do and think ahead to make sure you don't get him into a bind. She also answered the question with the fact that the rider has to be in the moment along with the horse so there is no pat answer on how to present yourself to your horse.
    Of course, later on, she talked about not approaching a horse with a "sucked back image." This is an image where you think you are just walking up to your horse but your body is pulled back away, your head is down and you are approaching your horse with a "don't hurt me" look. One of the main problems that the riders wanted to work on was a fear of the horse taking over leading to the rider taking over so much the horse became dull to a feel. Leslie said it was different degrees of the same problem, the horse ignoring a feel by either taking over or getting braced.
    One rider let out that she felt like an "accident waiting to happen" to which Leslie strongly recommended that she get out of that frame of mind. "Thoughts are powerful." She talked about how a person works with the horse on the ground being the same in the saddle. She talked about driving / drawing to keep the horse's attention which she demonstrated many, many times during the day. Talked about staying away from "muscling up", trying to force the situation. Remember to breathe and KEEP YOUR HEAD UP in the saddle. With transitions, don't look down or hold your breathe, walk with your seat to get the horse to come down to a walk before touching the reins. She talked about riding a circle as riding 4 straight lines with 4 corners to keep the horse from falling in. She asked everyone to take one step with the horse. Everybody but one, gathered their reins first which was asking the horse to stand still before they even started (of course this was exaggerated since everyone was concentrating on allowing only one step). She showed how picking up the reins was supposed to give the effect of lightening the front end but many horses had learned to root on the reins to get release.
    The scenario goes that they did not get a release so they pulled lower and lower until the rider had to adjust the reins and there was their release. She said that hand feeding a horse allowed them to become heavy on the front end and push you around since they are being rewarded with being in your space.
    She did not like the idea of dominating a horse and always being "like a lead horse." She said if a horse is dominated you can not count on them to fill in for you during times of need, like on rough ground. Her example was she got hit with a branch which knocked her off and her foot got hung up in the stirrup. She was glad she had a partnership with the horse where he did not have to panic because she was no longer the leader. She said you had to have respect and commitment but not domination.
    She talked about getting the horse to move off with life by first releasing them (taking your legs off by and ounce or two) and then asking by bringing life to your legs (the life coming from the center of your body). Don't hang on the horses mouth when they are stopped because it causes them to be dull to mouth pressure. This is how they learn to creep into pressure. She talked about our culture not rewarding people that show signs of life, independence and fortitude so it makes it hard for people to project this to the horse.
    She took a saying from Joe Wolters that "straight is the absence of left or right." If you can't make your horse turn left or right with a feel than you can never get true straightness. For turning, you need to watch where you are going, turn your head, shoulder and your hips just as if you were turning while on the ground. She emphasized letting the horse take time to think about your request if it is new to them and their attention is still on you. Also, learn to leave it at the moment and not drill it into the horse. Using your life on the horse is not punishment although it can appear sharp. You need to reassure the horse and love on them so that they know that they can relax close to you. Sometimes you just have to let the horse figure out how to get their feet out of their way. This was demonstrated on horses with no right diagonal where they had trouble going towards the right, reaching across with the left front foot. Sometimes the left foot ran into the right foot but they usually found out how to get it out of the way with a few tries. Putting lots of wraps on boots on a horse can slow things down since they don't feel it when they step on themselves. Of course, this is done at slow speed so the chance of injuries is much less.
    On the ground she demonstrated sending your life down the rope towards the horse to get a horse to stop with a slack. She worked a lot with the horses getting them to turn, watching for the tipping the head then send the energy toward the other side and send them slack when they come around.
    She did an exercise that I did not participate in (I should have but did not). She had three people in a team. The person in the middle was the rider and the people on either side were half a horse. The idea was to use the hands like reins and guide the people to go forward, back, left or right. First the "horses" had their eyes open but then they tried it with their eyes closed. The hands had to stay down or the people held their breath. The rider (and "horses") had to remember to keep their heads up not look at their feet. NO talking was aloud. The "horses" and rider got to change places so everyone had a turn at riding. She said think about the difference in the feel and ask yourself how would you like to be a schooling horse with all those different feels.
    The second exercise was like the old game of telephone. Everyone got in a circle and she sent a feel around and then expected the same feel back. Many times it broke down where one person did not think it was a feel or someone amplified the feel. She is very quick to point out her errors and told us that sometimes you can use them to an advantage. She missed a try at a turn but the horse kept its attention on her and faced up..


SUNDAY 8/3/97


    One of her great sayings is: what you bring out in your horse is a mirror of yourself (although you may not be aware of it). If you have a brace when you deal with your horse, it is reflected in the horse. Learn to back up your gestures (this was to people that would just swing the rope with no feeling or put their hands in the horse's space with no life). There was lot of talk about the life in your body. I think some of the attendees would say the word but a few had real dramatic changes from the day before.
    Many people when circling would get forward of the shoulder causing the horse to slow down without realizing it. She described how pushy horses get that way from people that ask for a back and then immediately come in and rub & praise the horse like they were apologizing for what they just did. She said leave them some room, let them soak on it.
    Another expression was allow them (horses) to be, don't make them be. Make the initial ask be polite. She would ask, then ask again and then mean it. Her version of "mean it" was mostly, the rope slapped on the saddle if they were not responding to your pressure at the girth (when you are working from the ground), a pop on the jawbone with the heel of her hand if the horse would not get his head out of the way, a sharp pull on the lead rope at about 45 degrees from the head if the horse did not respond to a feel. Note on the last one: it is very important that this was a constant pressure and pull WITHOUT a release before the pull. In other words, don't snap the rope. Otherwise the horse gets punished for the reward of the release.
    It is also very important to look at the feet position. If the near hind foot is behind the far hind, they will not be able to cross over when you pull, learn to be fair with what you ask for. She also mentions that with all this information, you might try to think too much and freeze up. It's OK to make mistakes and she would readily admit when she missed something.
    There was one horse that had respect for the person but not the rope. A horse with no respect for the rope can not be tied and there are going to be situations where a horse needs to be tied. (Basically they need to be halter broke). She says most likely this lack of rope respect came because they never get good releases, they are always under pressure from the rope when the person is working with them so they tune it out.
    A question came up about a horse that paws while on cross ties or in the trailer. Leslie's guess (since the horse was not there) that the horse was not confident with what is behind them and was upset when their head was tied because they could not turn to look. It then came up that this horse was by itself and therefore never got a chance to relax and let another horse be on guard. Her feelings on a horse that pawed every time they were tied was that they were never allowed to just be or allowed to soak on what just happened. (Again this may be a mirror of the owner, someone that is always fidgeting and pushing on the horse).
    She had each of the riders demonstrate their groundwork, mainly concentrating on turns, getting the horses to rock back on their hindquarters and flow through with their shoulders. Then she had the riders get up on the horses and use their legs, weight to do the turns with her helping on the ground. This allowed them to get a feel of a good turn. She really emphasized turning to look in the direction that you are going with the head up. Also, remember to turn your whole body, head, neck, shoulders, waist and hips. Ask for the hindquarters to step over by bumping with the heel in time with the back leg, then allow the shoulder to flow by opening your toe (this is a small movement from the knee, not the hip). 


Follow up



    I've already tried some of this on my horses. It is very interesting that the groundwork does reflect what I get in the saddle. Sarah has a soft feel while being led but is green in terms of leg pressure therefore she did not respond as well to my trying to move her forward by sending life to where the girth is. JR is just the opposite, light to a leg but dull to a rein (caused by my lack of release over many years). I cringe to think about how tight I am/was when I get nervous. Something I'm trying very hard to change. JR does not respond to a feel and by Leslie's definition, is not truly halter broke. I have to be careful when sending life towards his girth area. One time he actually grunted and sucked away and I did not make physical contact. Both of them back and stop by sending a feel down the rope towards each diagonal. (That was an amazing feeling when I first did it). It was one heck of a great clinic for me. 

 


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