My Rebuttals Against
Anti-DRL Web Sites

 

Here are some excerpts from Anti-DRL web pages that claim that DRLs are pure evil. Italicized text passages are excerpts from the web site, and non-italicized text are my words.

 

After finding a web site that is chock full of anti-DRL propaganda, I sent an e-mail to the address provided because I was simply appalled by what they had to say. It's at http://www.lightsout.org.

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Although whoever reads this will probably be annoyed with what I have to say, all I ask is that you hear me out on my Canadian side of the DRL story.

 

Strangely, the road toward DRL acceptance by government regulators has been a twisted one. In 1987, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety proposed that the NHTSA permit DRLs. NHTSA rejected the idea, but the Insurance Institute proposed the concept again a year later. Still, it was rejected, and the NHTSA said that DRLs DO NOT improve highway safety and may, in fact, INCREASE HIGHWAY HAZARDS.

I agree that they wouldn't improve highway safety when you have two lanes of traffic going in each direction because a driver typically looks at the tail ends of a car. How they would INCREASE highway hazards, I'd LOVE to know.

 

Quite simply, if most vehicles have DRLs, it's harder to spot those who do not.

After all my years of driving in Canada which has a good mix of DRL and non-DRL equipped cars I can safely say, "NO, IT ISN'T HARDER TO SPOT CARS WITHOUT DRLs!" However, it is easier to spot the cars with DRLs, especially in "unusual" driving situations. e.g. Foggy windows. This would be especially true for people with cars without rear window defoggers.

 

NHTSA also said glare from the DRLs of oncoming vehicles could bother some drivers.

Like the ones who complain about anything and everything new.

 

... and DRLs are an unfair government action we can combat.

Yeah, when the government is doing something to help increase visibility of cars on the road that's what I call "unfair government action". Not!

 

GM now says all its cars will have DRLs in 1997. This will make all vehicles that don't have them easier to miss.

Oh, look at me! I'm crashing into non DRL-equipped cars in Canada every time I go drive to pick up some milk! It's wreaking havoc on my insurance premiums! Not!

 

Unlike our opponents, we have clear reasons for our position, some of which you've already read:

Some clear reasons for the "opponents" are coming up as well:

 

1. The original concept for DRLs was to compensate for a lighting deficiency. We don't have such a deficiency in the United States!

Does this mean that there is never a dawn or dusk in the United States when people fail to turn their headlights on? Is it always sunny?

 

2. Since we have greater natural light, the auto manufacturers have increased the intensity of their DRLs. Just what we need: Bright lights hitting your eyes while you're trying to drive a car on a busy highway!

Contrary to popular belief in the United States, DRLs are not that bright. Even when I go to the United States to visit from Canada, the DRLs on cars there are the same brightness as in Canada. Yes, they typically use the high beam light bulbs, but they glow at only a fraction of their full intensity. When the DRL-equipped cars in my family are parked towards a wall at night and have their DRLs on, judging by their brightness you wouldn't be able to drive safely at night with DRLs alone—I'd say they're about a quarter to half the brightness of regular headlights. In other words, they aren't as bright as you make them seem.

 

3. Safety features need not create hazards and, more to the point, should not be so very, very annoying to so many people. Humans, by our very nature, tend to avoid disturbing stimuli, thus taking our eyes off the road! Some people respond to DRLs by avoiding looking directly at other cars on the road. Some avoid using their rear- or side-view mirrors.

OK, I admit to avoiding using my side-view mirrors—at night! The glare of headlights in the sideview mirror of any car is far, far greater at night than it is during the daytime. I’ve been driving for years and that's what real world experience—and not unsubstantiated whining—has shown me.

Some are even using devices which are already on the market to reduce the glare from oncoming DRLs.

And what are these "devices" called? Sunglasses?

 

4. Current data on the safety benefits of DRLs has been misinterpreted by proponents of DRLs. They have absolutely no positive effect on bright sunny days.

Yes, real-world driving experiences have shown me that they DO have a positive effect on "bright sunny days". Try to imagine this situation: one bright sunny morning, the roads were wet and the sun was just above the horizon. I was at the end of my street waiting to turn left onto another road. The sun was to my left causing a lot of glare on the wet pavement making it difficult to see. Also to the left, on the road that I wanted to turn onto, there is a grove of trees making a shaded area. I proceeded to turn left, but I braked after about 6 feet when I saw two lights moving in the shaded area from my left. As it turns out, the stimulus of moving lights created by the DRLs of the approaching vehicle helped me see it against the shade and glare and perhaps helped prevent an accident.

 

5. Of all the myriad categories of motor vehicle crashes, DRL use is arguably associated with improving one, maybe two types. The better solution to highway safety is driver improvement; this would substantially and dramatically decrease accidents of all types.

Driver improvement? Then why do we need speedometers? People should learn to know exactly how fast they're going just by gut feeling! And who cares about brake lights! People should be able to clearly see that the car in front is slowing down! What I'm getting at here is that visual aids help greatly while driving.

I also think that if driver improvement was legislated by government, people would complain about those costs more than what DRLs cost to install and operate! Taking a defensive driving course put on by BMW set me back $500 CDN just for the first level (even at that price, it's still subsidized by BMW)... should the government require everybody to take a $500 class every five years to make sure that their driving doesn't get sloppy over time? And if people refuse to pay the money for the test directly, it will become hidden in your taxes anyway.

 

6. People will literally die because of DRL use. By failing to institute the correct solution to problems illustrated by DRL data -- driver error -- people will continue to die and be injured who might otherwise have been spared from such incidents.

I still don't understand where you get the asinine notion that "people will literally die because of DRL use".

 

7. DRLs are an inefficient use of resources. Lights will have to be replaced more frequently, and it will have to be done by auto service personnel.

Light bulbs running at less than half intensity are not going to have to be replaced very often at all. And did you ever hear the joke: "How many auto service personnel does it take to screw in a DRL bulb? None, because the typical driver who knows how to use a screwdriver can do it himself!" Ahahahahaha!

Gas consumption will increase and, although it's not much per car, it is an astronomical dollar figure when multiplied by the millions of vehicles in this country.

If the citizens of the United States really gave a $hit about fuel consumption, the top selling vehicle in the U.S. wouldn't be the Ford F-Series truck. Do people really need a big truck to look macho and tough—and to haul air around? Now THAT'S an "inefficient use of resources"!

 

8. DRLs represent stone-age technology on the eve of the 21st century. Since cars do not need illumination at all hours, why not install sensors to activate headlights when ambient light is insufficient? The technology exists, and is already in use on Ford Explorers.

I've driven a car with this "great" feature, and it doesn't work very well under real world driving conditions. When driving in the countryside, the mix of the shade from trees and pockets of direct sunlight made the headlights turn on and off in a way which may distract oncoming drivers and because "humans, by our very nature, tend to avoid disturbing stimuli, thus taking our eyes off the road!" And when the headlights turned on automatically, the instrument cluster's lights also turned on and the radio's display dimmed as well. The dimmed radio display made it difficult for me to see what station was on—this distraction made me take my eyes off the road for longer than necessary. *Gasp!* I could have caused an accident!

 

9. DRLs are insulting to our intelligence.

Perhaps you are offended by inanimate objects a bit too easily

DRL proponents assume that drivers are not intelligent enough to know when to turn on their lights.

Having people occasionally forget to turn their headlights on is inevitable as death and taxes. Both you and I've [barely] seen people driving down the street in the middle of the night with no headlights on. Perhaps it's an honest mistake. Or perhaps it's a drunk driver that you would be better off seeing way ahead of time if his car was equipped with DRLs. The idea here is that even though you wouldn't be able to see well at night when driving a car with only DRLs on, at least the other drivers would be able to see YOU coming.

 

10. By implication, then, DRL proponents are saying, in effect, that the states are licensing unqualified drivers!

Your argument is running around in circles here because you said earlier that headlights that turn on automatically are fine—but now you say that people who don't know when to turn on their headlights are unqualified drivers? There is also more to bad driving than you seem to realize. Does the act of running red lights have anything to do with DRLs? Of course not! Tailgating? Nope! Not using turn signals? Uh-uh.

 

11. Driving is a skill. Observation is a skill. With proper experience and training, these skills are integrated in the person of a safe driver. Both of these skills can be nurtured or improved in every driver.

"With proper experience and training, these skills [learning to share the road with both DRL and non-DRL equipped cars] are integrated in the person of a safe driver." When looking out for other cars while driving, this is what I do: LOOK OUT FOR CARS, not lights. Driving in Canada with a mix of both DRL and non-DRL equipped cars hasn't changed this for me. If another car has DRLs to help me see it in unusual situations, that only makes my job of driving safer; it doesn't make other cars less visible to me.

But, neither skill will be enhanced in today's environment if it believes safety lies in the gadgets and misinterpreted data.

As for the "safety lies in the gadgets" line, here's some sarcasm: Well, it's time to throw off those darn seat belts! Because of them, we're all driving real sloppy because we know that we're safe in an accident, that's for shore! Sarcasm off. As I said earlier, just like seatbelts, DRLs are just an extra device to both aid and protect drivers.

Safety, in reality, is nothing more than the collective responsibility of each individual to be the best driver -- the most observant, the most cautious, the most defensive, the most skilled -- that he or she can be.

And since the "best driver" would sometimes find it useful to have just a little more help while driving, we have these things called maps, road signs, and DRLs.

 

12. What is the industry's motivation? Safety? We think not. Again, follow the money trail. Even some level heads within the automotive industry have been reluctant to embrace DRLs. "It's not that we are against them, but we haven't seen any real evidence of the safety benefits," said Chrysler spokesman Jason Vines. (Automotive News, 1995.) "We are not convinced yet that they're going to be beneficial," said Ford's manager of advance safety, Sherman Henson. And even GM's executives have their doubts: "The research on whether or not daytime running lights are effective is mixed," said the company's director of legal and safety issues.

People spend hundreds, if not thousands of dollars for car insurance every year. Spending just a few dollars to add DRLs when assembling a car does sound like good insurance to help prevent the occasional accident. And as for the quote, "It's not that we are against them, but we haven't seen any real evidence of the safety benefits"; in the real world, it's easy to for a government agency to make statistics about how often accidents occur, but what about the number of times they are avoided (i.e. because of DRLs)? How often do people go the insurance company or police station to report an accident that ALMOST happened? Not very often. What usually happens instead is that people yell or direct rude gestures at each other, and drive off. When there is an accident, however, some government department is gonna hear about it.

And some suggest that GM's motivation is sales, not safety. It makes sense, in a time when airbags, anti-lock brakes and built-in child-safety seats are all the rage in new-car advertising.

The thing that sets DRLs apart from airbags, ABS and child safety seats is that DRLs cost very little to install.

 

There are millions of individuals who feel as we do about DRLs, but so far we exist without an organization to represent our views and channel our thoughts, our votes and our purchasing power where it needs to go. We urge every individual who shares our concern about DRLs, about government interference, about the sanctity of state sovereignty, to join our organization. If we act in concert, they will feel our might. Without us, so called "safety people" will engage in further feel-good policy-making that will only justify their jobs.

How hypocritical. The paragraph above seems to "engage in further feel-good policy-making that will only justify their [your web site's writers'] jobs".

 

Some final notes:

If you're already whining about the government and its laws, you'd might as well go join your anti-government militia friends. And just think: all of the guns in the U.S. are a far greater threat to peoples' lives than some lights mounted on the front of a car. YOU'VE got a constitutional RIGHT to bear arms! Isn't that nice! Guns "represent stone-age technology on the eve of the 21st century!" Americans don't seem to mind that!

A few months ago, I watched a TV show/documentary about auto safety. When seatbelts were first introduced in cars, people didn't wear them because they already felt safe surrounded by thousands of pounds of steel. When the government passed laws REQUIRING their use, people resented having the government telling them what to do, because they couldn't adapt to change and they thought that they knew everything. Twenty years later, most people grew a brain and now realize that wearing a seatbelt is a good idea.

Hmmmm. Your web site seems to be based on the same sort of thinking as what early anti-seatbelt pioneers had. Perhaps DRLs are in fact a good idea, even in the United States?

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And as for the reply I got back for my e-mail? Here it is, the ultimate display of human stupidity.

 

 

Here are some excerpts from a web page called Pros and Cons of Daytime Running Lights (DRLs), done by some electrical engineer:

 

1. You lose critical traffic signaling methods. Flashing your headlights is
a) the accepted signal to a trucker that it is safe to change lanes
b) a signal to alert drivers that have forgotten to turn on their headlights
c) a signal at a 4-way stop or in a parking lot to let the other driver go first
d) a signal to other vehicles that you are traveling with that you need to stop.

News flash! You can still flick your high beams on temporarily when you have DRLs! Yes, the temporary flash is brighter than DRLs, thus leading to a noticeable flashing effect. Yes!

 

2.You can't turn off your lights when
a) they are glaring into another vehicle
b) they are shining into a house at the end of a cul-de-sac or tee intersection
c) they are shining at a pedestrian.
d) You are sitting with the engine running on the side of the road, in someone's driveway, etc.
e) you want to be able to see outside your side windows.

What lame excuses. I won't even give point a) the dignity of a reply. As for b), when a car's DRLs are pointing at my house during the day, I don't notice any beam of light on my house. And if there was one, who cares? Point c) is as lame as a) and b). With d), Having a light on while parked is not is not really a big deal. Whoopty-ding. As for e), what is this guy talking about??? It's as though when a car with DRLs approaches, the side windows of your car become opaque? Huh?

 

3. There are places where you need to drive with only your parking lights, i.e. drive-in movie parking lots, astronomical gatherings, military bases, etc.

As I mentioned before, DRL lights do not really light up the surrounding area at night very well. I don't think that the light from DRLs will cause the view of the constellations above to be washed out.

 

4. Drivers with DRLs often forget to turn on their low beam headlights in rain or fog and at dusk or dawn. This is especially dangerous because the taillights do not come on until the low beams are turned on. Many drivers believe that in rain or fog the DRLs are sufficient and fail to turn on their low beams to activate their tail lights. When it is dark, the lack of dashboard lights is an indicator that the low beams and tail lights are not on, but in daytime conditions where the low beams should be used there is no indication that the DRLs, not the lowbeams, are on.

Not turning on headlights is the driver's fault, not the car manufacturer's fault. It's like blaming the auto manufacturer when drivers don't wear their seatbelts properly. So then why bash DRLs? Why doesn't he also start a web site bashing people who don't turn on their headlight in rain or fog?

 

5. They make your bulbs wear out faster.

Oh yeah, a bulb running at half its regular voltage/brightness is really going to burn out fast!

 

6. They decrease your gas mileage slightly. See: http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/dearmfr/cd9402.pdf. The decrease in mileage due to the increased load on the alternator is very small, but it is still measurable. One one of the biggest proponents of DRLs, GM, asked for and received permission to disconnect DRLs when doing tests for their fuel economy ratings.

If people really cared about fuel economy down to the point of measuring inches and feet lost per mile because of DRLs, gas-hog pickup trucks and SUVs wouldn't be on the road in such great numbers.

 

7. They annoy other drivers. “In 1998, after receiving hundreds of complaints, NHTSA acknowledged that the intensity limits were too high and proposed reductions in DRL intensity. NHTSA cited a study by Kirkpatrick, et. al. (1989), that said that at 2000cd, the glare from DRLs was rated at no worse than "just unacceptable" in 80% of the responses. At 4000cd, the glare was rated no worse than "disturbing" in 80% of the responses. These subjective ratings are based on the DeBoer scale. Corresponding to these ratings, they found that at 4000cd the probability that the rearview mirror would be dimmed was about 70%. At 2000cd the dimming probability was 40%. At 1000cd, the dimming probability dropped to 10%.”  The NHTSA has now proposed that the European standard for DRL brightness be adopted, see http://auto.com/autowire/qlights6.htm . Expect the automakers to oppose this since it would add cost to do DRLs properly.

Here goes somebody with all sorts of statistics to make a point. Statistics and news stories can be twisted in favour or against anything. What's with this 1000, 2000, 4000cd, percentage, and DeBoer scale crap? This is my real-word experience which is not based on some statistics from a propaganda book: After having DRLs in Canada for over ten years, I can honestly say that DRLs are NOT disturbing!

 

8. The people in favor of DRLs are so dimwitted and have such weak positions that DRLs must really be bad. ... For a not so polite, but amusing and very poorly done website on DRLs, click over to:  http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7840/drlsgoodnotbad.html . It’s difficult to read because of the poor background, but the individual that did that site clearly lacks the logic that he claims to be promoting. He has many outright errors on his site, including his statement that DRLs usually use high beams and usually operate at 50% intensity, but the convoluted logic in some of his statements and examples left me rolling on the floor laughing. Don't they teach logic and the language of argument in Canada? At one point he blames the lack of DRLs for the death of someone who was hit by a stolen car that had no lights on. What really is amusing is that his site claims to be "the home of logical driving," but the guy is a prime example of the idiots you see on the road that lack any common sense.

He's referring to my so-called poorly done web site that has received many e-mail compliments from other people. Anyway, the poor background he was referring to was caused either by viewing the web page on an older web browser which caused text to shift too far to the left (and over the black road graphic), and/or a change of fonts I did at one time; these problems have now been fixed. At least my web page doesn't consist of small black text on a yellow background! Oh, how creative... if he added a bit of red, it would look like a hotdog stand!

As for the "outright error" of my stating that DRLs usually use high beams at 50% brightness, I don't know what planet this guy comes from, but it's obvious that HE'S wrong. Let's take my DRL-equipped car for example: the DRL light source is from one set of bulbs. When I turn the regular headlights on, the DRL bulbs turn off and a different set of bulbs turn on. When I turn on my high beams, the regular headlight bulbs turn off and the same set of bulbs as what's used for DRLs turns on—with much greater brightness than when the DRLs are on. I've noticed this behaviour with my car and many others on the road that I have observed and driven. I've even observed similar behaviour with configurations where one bulb contains both the high- and low-beam light filaments. I can't explain it any more simply. So, can somebody please tell me how I am wrong?

This guy also claimed that I merely blamed the death of somebody due to the fact that the stolen car he was hit by did not have DRLs. Just like with his so-called "unarguable" statistics—he twisted the facts and left out important points that I had stated—just to make me look bad. Even though I mentioned it on my web site, he's the one who failed to mention that the crash occurred at night. In this situation, I was implying that DRLs are useful to protect the public from idiots who drive at night with no lights on because a car with at least DRLs on at night can be seen approaching. Thus, it can be argued that DRLs are beneficial at night as well. Click here to view to the paragraph in question.

And, by the way, the "convoluted logic" on my web site that he is referring to is actually sarcasm. It makes for interesting reading. I guess electrical engineers don't know what sarcasm is if it bit them on the ass. :-)

 

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