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Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor...............lutefisk at grex.cyberspace dot org :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ April 15, 2007 HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN] An Amazing Journey A2 BULLETIN BOARD at A2Central.com DISTILLATIONS----------------------[DAA] Juiced.GS V12I1--------------------------------------------------[JGS] gcc Support for 65816--------------------------------------------[GCC] Control Question-------------------------------------------------[CQN] Extensions to TextEdit for Extended Keyboard---------------------[ETE] Retrogaming Times Monthly----------------------------------------[RTM] April Issue of Retrogaming Times Monthly-------------------------[ARM] Arachnid---------------------------------------------------------[ARD] Ethernet Interface Code in Sweet16-------------------------------[EIC] SNAP NNTP Client-------------------------------------------------[SNC] SNAP v1.0.0 Released / SAFE2 v2.1.5 Available--------------------[SRS] What Clone Did You Have?-----------------------------------------[WCH] LETTERS TO THE EDITOR-------------------------------------------------[LTE] No Letters to the Editor This Month An Invitation KFEST 2007------------------------------------------------------------[KF7] KansasFest 2007--------------------------------------------------[KFS] KansasFest 2007 Registration Now Open----------------------------[KRO] KansasFest 2007 Registration Form Via Mail-----------------------[RFM] KFest Sessions First Call!---------------------------------------[KFS] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. [OPN]------------------------------- HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER | ------------------------------------ From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson email: lutefisk at grex.cyberspace dot org An Amazing Journey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Soon after buying a used Apple IIgs fourteen years ago, I moved Talk Is Cheap and my 2400 baud modem from my Laser 128 to the IIgs and began the process of acquiring software for the IIgs. The six disks for installation of Sys 6.0.1 were available on GEnie. Time using GEnie was more expensive during the day... so I would get up early and start the download of one of the six disks via Xmodem... a little more than an hour later the download was complete... used Shrinkit to create the 800k disk. Five more days and I had all six disks. Now, using Marinetti, SAFE2, an ethernet card, and a broadband connection the IIgs can download files in much less time. The steps involved in bringing this about have truly been An Amazing Journey. [EOA] ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] [DAA]------------------------------------------------------- DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 Bulletin Board at A2Central.com | ------------------------------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson email: lutefisk at grex.cyberspace dot org [JGS] Juiced.GS V12I1 """"""""""""""" Juiced.GS Volume 12, Issue 1 (March 2007) has been sent to the publisher. Featured in this issue are: Mike Maginnis' review of Ninjaforce's Samurai IRC client; a look at the development of DiskMaker 8 by its author, Mark Percival; an NDA programming tutorial by Kelvin Sherlock; Andy Molloy's retrospective on the Apple II's 1977 unveiling; and an interview with 1 MHz's Carrington Vanston, by the person who knows him best. Watch for an update on A2Central.com's resource portal once the issue is shipping, and keep and eye on the publication's official Web site, , for issue previews and related content and links. Ken Gagne Editor-in-Chief Juiced.GS (kgagne, a2c.general_chat, Mar 22 2007) [EOA] [GCC] gcc Support for 65816 """"""""""""""""""""" geoff wrote: >> gcc has had 65816 support for quite a while now--it doesn't look like that the 65816 is being distributed in the latest binutils releases since there is no owner. The first step to have IIgs usability is to add OMF support to ld in binutils (it is really neat that Kelvin has worked on an OMF linker written,in Java, but that won't integrate into binutils). << I've been thinking about this some more. While I was out getting a haircut today, it occurred to me that it would be very cool to port Minimo (a mobile version of Firefox) to GS/OS. It in theory wouldn't be a crazy hard project -- if we had gcc/ld for building GS code. Without that, it becomes a rather convoluted job. Having Minimo on the GS would be a kick. Tabbed browsing and JavaScript support. I dunno if it would be fast enough to seriously use or not, but it would be fun to try. Sheppy (Sheppy, asc.a2pro_developers, Mar 23 2007) >>>>> """"" Well, emulator users may be happy to run it (if the masses can ever work out how to get an emulator running Marinetti to talk to the host machines IP stack. - but that's a different issue). Cheers, Andrew (roughana, a2c.a2pro_developers, Mar 25 2007) >>>>> """"" A month or two back, I was thinking a WML browser would be possible. WML is designed for cell phones and other low-speed/limited resolution devices, which makes it a better fit for the IIgs (or perhaps even 8-bit Apple IIs). Kelvin. (kws, a2c.a2pro_developers, Mar 25 2007) >>>>> """"" Yeah, that would certainly be possible, but I'm not sure how useful it is. Even mobile devices are moving toward full-on HTML these days. Sheppy (Sheppy, a2c.a2pro_developers, Mar 26 2007) >>>>> """"" I looked at WML around four or five years ago. After doing some testing on several different phones, I decided that any interface made for the IIGS would be non-intuitive, at least compared to SIS. I don't recall there being much content to consider it very worthwhile, also compared to what was accessible by SIS. It was also depressing to see cell phones having a higher color depth and a faster processor to uncompress images--I think I recall that there was at least one phone with a better resolution than a IIgs being available too. Geoff (geoff, a2c.a2pro_developers, Mar 27 2007) [EOA] [CQN] Control Question """""""""""""""" Let's say I have a custom control. I want the control to be notified when the mouse is hovering over it. Most modern GUIs will notify the control when the mouse enters/exits/moves within a control. As far as I can tell, the Control Manager will only notify the control when there is an actual mouse click. Can anybody tell me otherwise? I'm thinking the only reasonable way to handle it is to manually check the mouse after calling GetNextEvent/TaskMaster. Kelvin. (kws, ac2.a2pro_developers, Feb 28 2007) >>>>> """"" I wish there was another way. I was considering the other day what it would take to create a way to do cursor hovering alerts on the IIgs... Ryan (rsuenaga, a2c.a2pro_developers, Apr 08 2007) >>>>> """"" In the main TaskMaster loop, use ReadMouse, FindControl and GetCtlID, to match to the target controls, and then see if the cursor has moved from a target control within the time you want it to hover, by counting with GetTick. After Sheppy's suggestion in JuicedGS that this would be useful in SAFE2 to identify the unnamed icon buttons, I have added the feature, and it works just fine. I shall be posting an update to SAFE2 later today, so you can see for yourself that it works! Ewen (Speccie, a2c.a2pro_developers, Apr 10 2007) [EOA] [ETE] Extensions to TextEdit for Extended Keyboard """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I've been using an extended keyboard on my IIgs for a while and am constantly trying to use the del/home/end keys. Obviously they don't work in most apps.... But I found that they are supported by the Hermes NDA. So i've just had a thought, what would it take to patch the LineEdit tool set to support the extended keyboard? Patching the tool set has the benefit of automatically incorporating support into every app that uses the tool set. Does anyone know if this would require a rewrite of the tool set or whether just certain calls would need to be patched? Is the scale of the work a hackfest entry or a full time job? Does anyone else think this is a neat idea? Anyone want to try it? Cheers, Andrew (roughana, a2c.operating_systems, Mar 31 2007) >>>>> """"" Bill Tudor wrote Ext.KB.Init (I think this is the name since it is referenced in a GenieLamp) which maps the extended keyboard keys to their OpenApple equivalents (i.e. press End which translates to the OA -> or whatever it is). I think it patches the Event Manager; I don't see any reason why it would have to patch individual controls. I do not know if this software is available anywhere for download now. I believe it is freeware. Geoff (geoff, a2c.operating_systems, Mar 31 2007) >>>>> """"" Ahh, that's an elegant solution. I'm glad that it already exists. I've now installed it on my system and it works very well too! Thanks for the heads up. Cheers, Andrew (roughana, a2c.operating_systems, Apr 01 2007) [EOA] [RTM] Retrogaming Times Monthly """"""""""""""""""""""""" Hi All, I never did announce that I volunteered to write an Apple II retro-gaming column in the "Retrogaming Times Monthly" online newsletter. :) http://my.stratos.net/~hewston95/RTM/RTM_Home.htm To celebrate the Apple II, I called it "Apple II Incider". :D Stop on by to take a look. I've been writing for the past 4 months or so. Don (coach41, a2c.games_entertainment, Mar 20 2007) [EOA] [ARM] April Issue of Retrogaming Times Monthly """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Issue # 35 of the Retrogaming Times Monthly, is now online. Highlights from our April 2007 issue include: * Many Faces of "Millipede" * Nintendo Realm - Mid April to Mid MAY 1986 * NEScade - "Marble Madness" * Apple ][ Incider - Aztec, Archon & Beyond Castle Wolfenstein * Video Game Rock * Old Wine in New Bottles: Retrogaming on Modern Hardware You can find all these and more inside the Retrogaming Times Monthly! 115 months in a row - the longest-running online free retro-gaming newsletter ever! http://my.stratos.net/~hewston95/RTM/RTM_Home.htm (coach41, a2c.games_entertainment, Apr 06 2007) [EOA] [ARD] Arachnid """""""" Hi Kim Howe's site on omni isn't there anymore. Does anyone know where to find info on the Arachnid web browser? Charlie (Charlie, a2c.software, Mar 29 2007) >>>>> """"" I'm not sure what other information you want, but he sent me the source code for it, which I could get in the file library here.. Kirk (Kirk Mitchell, a2c.software, Mar 29 2007) >>>>> """"" Um, if you are allowed to provide it then yes, please do so now! Do not stop at go, do not collect $200. Why hasn't this been released earlier??? Cheers, Andrew (roughana, a2c.software, Mar 31 2007) >>>>> """"" Well, the only stipulation Kim set for it was to treat it with respect. >> Why hasn't this been released earlier??? << It was sent as a bunch of zip files, and I never got around to re-archiving them in one file. I can zip them easy enough on my Mac, but getting them to the GS is awkward. I'll get on it right away though. B-{) Kirk (Kirk Mitchell, a2c.software, Apr 01 2007) >>>>> """"" >> I'll get on it right away though. B-{) << Excellent. Looking forward to seeing it. What language is it written in? What are Kim's wishes for it? (e.g. open source, freeware?) Is he still planning to develop it? Cheers, Andrew -- Posted with a real IIgs, Uthernet equipped, using SNAP 1.0.1b9 (roughana, a2c.software, Apr 03 2007) >>>>> """"" I just uploaded it to the a2central.com's upload/Public folder. >> What language is it written in? << C and a REZ file. >> What are Kim's wishes for it? (e.g. open source, freeware?) Is he still planning to develop it? << He was concerned that he wouldn't get back to it due to his health. I basically asked him for it while we were in Chat, and he sent it to me. I've seen him very rarely since then, so I don't have a specific answer as to what he wished for it. He just wrote "treat it with respect". I'd take that as also treating Kim with respect and giving him credit in addition to whatever folks do with it. Kirk (Kirk Mitchell, a2c.software, Apr 05 2007) >>>>> """"" I recommend that it gets an open source license. This allows not only for Kim to keep his copyright on the code, but it will benefit those who can find it useful. Kim has been open in the past with sharing his code. When I caught up with Kim back in 2003 about the future of Arachnid, it can best be summarized as: his heart is to see a future with Arachnid, but the probability that he will be able to work on the code is very small. I have not seen any open source software abuse with the IIgs. Nobody has come along and tried to claim that they wrote Marinetti or SIS. The code isn't really portable to any other OS (it makes more sense to port Mozilla to the IIGS than SIS or Arachnid to another OS). Benefits with a release of Arachnid could result in a few extra sales of Orca/C for Syndicomm. Some folks could get interested in IIgs programming and develop something new and cool. And maybe Arachnid could get new features--it would be an interesting challenge with a very satisfying reward of community appreciation. Geoff (geoff, a2c.software, Apr 05 2007) >>>>> """"" >> I recommend that it gets an open source license. This allows not only for Kim to keep his copyright on the code, but it will benefit those who can find it useful. Kim has been open in the past with sharing his code. When I caught up with Kim back in 2003 about the future of Arachnid, it can best be summarized as: his heart is to see a future with Arachnid, but the probability that he will be able to work on the code is very small. << Yes. Exactly my take. But I have no authority to place it in any class of copyright. I may have effed up. >> I have not seen any open source software abuse with the IIgs... << If such folk come within my grasp, (don't come to KFest), I'll give them bear hugs they'll remember for the weeks they spend in casts. << While I'd like to see more folks develop for the IIgs, it's still a small market. Still, after reading the source, I've learned an organic fertilizer load... Which is what I think Kim means to happen.... Kirk (Kirk Mitchell, a2c.software, Apr 09 2007) [EOA] [EIC] Ethernet Interface Code in Sweet16 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" >> a2retro wrote: I am sure *any* form of Ethernet support in Sweet16 would be great ... << I second this. I've yet to find a 'killer app' that will make me move to MacOS X, but if Sweet16 has host ethernet ability then I'd be very interested. Cheers, Andrew (roughana, a2c.network_telecomm, Mar 31 2007) [EOA] [SNC] SNAP NNTP Client """""""""""""""" As you may all have seen in the March issue of JuicedGS, I have a new program I shall be releasing shortly. I shall let you all know as soon as it is available, but all being well, I expect to release on the 10th of April. Meanwhile, if you have any questions, please ask away... Ewen Announcing: SNAP - Speccie's News Acquisition Program SNAP is an online NNTP News Client for the IIgs SNAP accesses Usenet and NNTP news servers, right from your IIgs desktop. SNAP gives you multiple server configurations, with custom Group lists, allowing you to easily tailor your daily news fix. SNAP lets you Post messages, or Follow up existing messages. SNAP will optionally Forward or Reply to a message through a normal SMTP mail account. SNAP is ideal for accessing the A2Central, or CSA2 news Forums. SNAP requires a IIgs running Marinetti 3.0b3 or later. SNAP works best with a direct connection to the Net, such as that from an Ethernet card. SNAP will soon be available from http://homepage.mac.com/speccie/ (Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 03 2007) >>>>> """"" Wow. A usable news reader for the IIgs. Excellent work Ewen! Regards, Andrew Posted with a real IIgs, Uthernet equipped, by SNAP1.0.1b9 (roughana, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 03 2007) >>>>> """"" That's great news, Ewen. I'm finding the best way for me to access this forum is via NNTP, so I look forward to doing just that... Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.C.S.W. Speak Softly and Wear Loud Shorts (rsuenaga, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 08 2007) >>>>> """"" I was keeping an eye on your NNTP connections to A2central and saw that you were making progress. I was surprised to see that nobody wrote any posts to jump to any conclusions. Good job with the Newsreader progress. This will make access to the A2Central forums by a IIgs so much easier. Geoff (geoff, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 03 2007) >>>>> """"" Geoff, >> I was keeping an eye on your NNTP connections to A2central and saw that you were making progress. I was surprised to see that nobody wrote any posts to jump to any conclusions. << As I was too! Only one person actually noticed, and he was not who you would expect! >> Good job with the Newsreader progress. This will make access to the A2Central forums by a IIgs so much easier. << I am giving it the weekend, so that any last minute bugs can be found, and then shall post on my web server next week. I will let everybody know here when I do. For practical reasons on the IIgs, I have limited received messages to 256K, so you probably won't be able download movies from the binary groups with SNAP, but it handles text groups just fine on the four news servers I have access to. Ewen (Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 04 2007) >>>>> """"" >> As I was too! Only one person actually noticed, and he was not who you would expect! << I noticed... but then again, I was privvy to a discussion on this some time ago. Congratulations Ewen, yet another tremendous achievement and contribution to the Apple II community. Apple II Forever! (sfahey, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 05 2007) >>>>> """"" >> For practical reasons on the IIgs, I have limited received messages to 256K, so you probably won't be able download movies from the binary groups with SNAP, but it handles text groups just fine on the four news servers I have access to. << Is the MPAA paying you? You are forcing a limit just so IIgs users can only download legal content? Great, now IIgs users have to resort to BitTorrent. Oh wait, there is no BitTorrent for the IIgs either. Next thing you'll tell me that there isn't any movie player for the IIgs so it doesn't really matter. :) Geoff (geoff, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 05 2007) >>>>> """"" ROFL... With version 1.0 about to be released, I will of course need to think about feratures for version 2.0. I guess I shall need to add virtual memory, so the IIgs gets at least 4Gb of addressable memory, virtual acceleration, to bring even the basic 65816 to at least 3GHz, and support for the NVidia GeForce Graphics cards. That should allow me to remove the 256K message cap, and let HD movies be played in IIgs QuickQuickSlowTime... Of course I could save myself all the bother of writing that code, by using a short Spectrum script. After all, they tell me Spectrum does everything... Ewen (Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 10 2007) [EOA] [SRS] SNAP v1.0.0 Released / SAFE2 v2.1.5 Available """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" SNAP v1.0.0, the news client for the IIgs, is now on my web server for you all to enjoy. I have also placed an updated SAFE2 v2.1.5. There are a couple of minor changes. Go get them now: homepage.mac.com/speccie (Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 10 2007) >>>>> """"" Ewen, I just went and downloaded them but SAFE2 v2.1.5 has the wrong name listed in the HTML file so it threw me off a little. The description and the file it is pointing to is correct but it still has the name of the link set to SAFE2.1.2. (Jeff Blakeney, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 10 2007) >>>>> """"" Jeff, Sorry about that, and it is now corrected! The actual file that is downloaded is correctly named, it was only the description that was wrong as I forgot to update that line. SNAP is correctly named by the way... Ewen (Speccie, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 10 2007) >>>>> """"" >> SNAP v1.0.0, the news client for the IIgs, is now on my web server for you all to enjoy. << And I am enjoying it too! This is wonderful, Ewen! >> I have also placed an updated SAFE2 v2.1.5. There are a couple of minor changes. << I caught up on this one too. I love it! Kirk (Kirk Mitchell, a2c.network_telecomm, Apr 10 2007) [EOA] [WCH] What Clone Did You Have? """""""""""""""""""""""" I had a Laser 128. The original, which was like a IIc in a lot of ways, although the keyboard was horrible. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.C.S.W. Speak Softly and Wear Loud Shorts (rsuenaga, a2c.apple_clones, Apr 08 2007) [EOA] [LTE]------------------------------- LETTERS TO THE EDITOR | ------------------------------------ NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month. [EOA] AN INVITATION ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the Apple II computers. Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, lutefisk at grex.cyberspace dot org The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted. The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_. [EOA] [KF7]------------------------------ KFest 2007 | ----------------------------------- [KFS] KansasFest 2007 """"""""""""""" is scheduled for July 17-22, 2007. Go to for details. [EOA] [KRO] KANSASFEST 2007 REGISTRATION NOW OPEN """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" KANSAS CITY, MO -- March 30, 2007: KansasFest -- the annual Apple II expo of sessions, contests, great stories, tips and tricks, fun and games, and things that "just can't be done on an Apple II" -- is now open for registration. KFest 2007 will be held at Rockhurst University in Kansas City, Missouri, July 17 - 22. Five nights, twelve meals, and countless sessions, contests, great stories, tips and tricks, fun and games, and things that "just can't be done on an Apple II" costs only $340 for a double room or $410 for a single. To register, download and complete the PDF form at http://www.KFest.org/ and follow its instructions to return it via mail, email, or fax. Wednesday's lunch (the annual Kookout) is now included in the price of the event. Also, volunteers who present sessions will now receive an on-site rebate: $15 for presenting a half-hour session, and $25 for a full hour. In addition to official shirts, sold as always at the event, there's also a KansasFest online store, where you can buy additional shirts, hats, mugs, and more. You can find it at http://www.cafepress.com/kansasfest/ David Szetela, founding editor of Nibble Magazine and a former manager at Apple Computer, will be KansasFest 2007's keynote speaker. Szetela is now the founder, president, and CEO of Clix Marketing, an Internet marketing agency. An experienced speaker, Mr. Szetela promises a fascinating inside perspective on Apple and Nibble for attendees of KansasFest. "It's amazing and gratifying to me that the flame of passion for the Apple II we shared nearly 30 years ago still burns brightly," says Mr. Szetela. "I'm looking forward to attending KansasFest 2007 and re-connecting with old friends, reminiscing about Apple II milestones, and maybe sharing some little-known insider anecdotes." Come join the 30th anniversary celebration of the Apple II at KansasFest, the world's only annual conference dedicated to the first personal computer. (Ken Gagne, KFest Mailing List, March 30, 2007) [EOA] [RFM] KansasFest 2007 Registration Form Via Mail """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" By now (or soon), all past KFest attendees should receive in their postal mail a hardcopy of the registration form. Now that you have it both in print and digitally, it should be easy to sign up for KansasFest 2007! I've already done so, and I can't wait to hear from everyone else. Max, Tim, Cindy, Sarah, Tony - you're all coming back this year, aren'tcha? :-) Who else is ready to commit? (As opposed to be committed.) -Ken (Ken Gagne, KFest Mailing List, April 3, 2007) [EOA] [KFS] KFest Sessions First Call! """""""""""""""""""""""""" Ladies & Gentlemen: While the evenings and nights of KansasFest are renowned for their spontaneity, the mornings and afternoons are reserved for sessions spanning a variety of uses, extensions, and applications of the Apple family. Just as varied as these sessions are the good people who volunteer to present them. So... do you have an idea for a session you'd like to present at KFest? Let us know! The best way to do that is to access the session proposal form at: http://www.kfest.org/sessions/index.php You may also email sessions@kfest.org. And, to make it even sweeter, if you do a session, WE'LL PAY YOU COLD HARD CASH! That's right, this year we are rewarding those who conduct sessions with a $15 or $25 on-site rebate. Wow! Use that extra cash to buy Sheppy's latest Syndicomm product, or buy extra tubs of popcorn for everyone on movie night! We are also looking for session ideas?have a topic you would like to see presented (even if you aren't the one to do it)? Sessions are typically 30 or 60 minutes in length, but , held at various times throughout the daytime hours. Past sessions have included hardware, software and game demonstrations and tutorials; integration of the Apple II with other devices (Macs, scanners); Internet tips and tricks; or any subject that would be of interest to Apple II/Mac users. The attendees of KansasFest are the event's heart and soul. Give us something worth rolling out of bed for each morning! Andy Molloy awmolloy@landsnail.com (Andrew Molloy, KFest Mailing List, April 12, 2007) [EOA] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month on """"""""""""""" the WEB at: http://lamp.a2central.com/ This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever! * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2007 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All rights reserved. * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to thelamp@sheppyware.net * All issues of The Lamp! are available at: ftp://www.a2central.com/the.lamp!/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of A2Central.com, Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson. Forum messages are reprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permission from the individual authors. A2Central.com, Ryan M. Suenaga, and Lyle Syverson do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy. Material published in this edition may not be reprinted without the expressed written consent of the publisher. Registered computer user groups, not for profit publications , and other interested parties may write the publisher to apply for permission to reprint any or all material. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< [EOF]