The PRIMAL RAGE STRATEGY GUIDE (for PR version 1.7) v 0.9 12-23-94 By: Todd Sinclair (Todd.Sinclair@Castles.com) or (Ace@community.net) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ************************ Primal Rage 2.3 ******************************* =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Well, Primal Rage version 2.3 is out... and man, did they change it. The whole game is slower, all characters do about half damage (the slower game, combined with the 1/2 damage, make Talon the weakest character. His Pounce & Flip move does NOTHING.). Almost all of the old combos do not work anymore, due to the changes in move speed, and in the moves themselves. Talon's Brain Basher, for example, works differently... He bounces off your head instead of leaping off it, enabling it to be used in combos. The computer also fights COMPLETELY differently. Talon almost NEVER jumps in the new version. Anyway, if you're playing version 2.3, ignore this Guide completely... it'll get you killed. This is how different it is. In 1.7, I could beat the game with anyone without continuing, on the hardest level. Now, I can't get past 4 people in a row. But don't let that stop you from playing! It's slower, but it looks to be better when playing against another person. No more super-mega combos that kill them in 10 seconds... you actually have to FIGHT now. Glad to see they didn't go the way of Killer Instinct and make the combo system worse. So... keep sending me cheats for the game, new or old version (especially the new, of course). Looks like we have a whole new Guide to write! ************************************************************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Contents ------------------------------------------------------------------------ i Revision History 1 What is... 1.1 What is Primal Rage? 1.2 What is the Primal Rage Strategy Guide? 2 Strategies 2.1 Playing Strategies 2.2 General Computer Strategies 2.3 Specific Computer Strategies 3 Other Cool Stuff 4 Where to get the lastest copy of the FAQ and Strategy Guide. 5 I want your Cheeze! 6 Credits ------------------------------------------------------------------------ i. Revision History (hey, everyone else has one) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ v0.9 - Some more stuff, mostly great cheezes for Diablo... Now that PR 2.3 is out, I might have to split the Guide into 2 seperate FAQs... one for 1.7, and one for 2.3. v0.5 - More patterns, couple new bugs, and the new Chip info/rumors. v0.3 - Added some more stuff for Vertigo, Chaos, Sauron, and Blizzard. Took out Character Descriptions, added Playing Strategies instead v0.2 - nothing... first release. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.1 Intro : What is Primal Rage? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the newest fighting games out, using stop-motion animation of real models for the characters. If you don't know what it is, though, you shouldn't be reading this. Go read the FAQ by Zargon and Pericom, or check out the WWW Primal Rage FAQ (see section 4 for info on obtaining them) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1.2 What is the Primal Rage Strategy Guide? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Guide is an effort to make the game playable for new players. The computer is extremely pattern-based, so it is quite easy to defeat once you master the patterns (cheezes?) with a certain character. This usually results in the difficulty being set at the highest level, where you make one mistake and the computer will pummel you with combos taking half your energy in less than a couple seconds. By listing out all the strategies against the computer, and the computer's general playing style, the Guide should make it possible for even a new player to at least put up a fight, and let the rest of us see those endings without knowing someone who works at the arcade. And remember... it's only Cheezy if it's against a human! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.1 General Playing Strategies ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This section describes the general fighting style of each character, what buttons do what kind of regular attack, and ways to beat other humans. When playing as.... ARMADON ------- Armadon's Rushing Uppercut/Spinning Death is probably his most useful move. It will go under all projectile attacks and will hit your opponent before he recovers. Add it to the end of any combo for extra damage, and to knock them down (again). The Spinning Death is faster and can't be hit by projectiles at all due to the recovery time, but leaves you vulnerable longer if it is blocked. The Rushing Uppercut doesn't leave you as vulnerable when blocked, is easier for some people to get off, but has the disadvantage of not lasting too long... this can result in you getting hit in the back of the head by whatever projectile you tried to go under. Choose one, and learn it well. The Hornication Uppercut isn't all that great. Just doing a standing horn (buttons 2 or 1+2), or even a jumping horn, is enough to hit someone out of the air. It's also faster to pull off. Down + 3+4 will do a tail-trip, and you can tack on a Spinning Death if you're quick enough. His main strong point is his ability to easily bounce opponents in the air with his horn. When jumping, if you do a strong horn (button 2) and hit, tap buttons 1+2 right away and you can pull off a quick 2-hit combo in the air. BLIZZARD -------- Don't just sit there and do Cold Breaths. That will get you killed. If you want to have fun, use the Punching Bag a lot. Also, if your opponent does nothing when you do that move, keep hitting button 1... you can keep punching him until you get tired or your opponent wiggles the joystick (it does have a max of 50% damage and... *60* hits! Yes, there IS a 60-hit combo!! No, you get nothing special... just 10 lightning bolts.). Another note about the Punching Bag... sure, it looks cool, but doesn't do any damage, right? Wrong. Do it, and finish with a high-arcing uppercut (button 4). Then jump forward (normal jump, NOT a power jump) with some aerial attack, followed by an air throw. Now THAT hurts... Another good tactic is to do an Ice Geyser whenever you trip your opponent (his trip is down + 3+4). If you're fast enough, you catch him as he's falling down, and can hit and air throw him also. A standing 4 or down + 2 will do a single and a double uppercut, respectively, hitting jumping opponents out of the air (usually). The Ice Geyser is better, but takes longer to pull off. CHAOS ----- Don't really know... I don't care for him much, and no one I've talked to has much experience playing him. A nasty trick the computer does is a Fart of Fury, then either a Flying Butt Slam or a Ground Shaker, forcing you to move out the way, resulting in not only damage, but being stunned by the Fart cloud. As with Blizzard, Down + 2 is a double uppercut, and a standing 4 is a normal uppercut. Whenever you trip your opponent, do a Batterin Ram to hit them before they land. Then if you're lucky, do a double uppercut to hit them again for that little bit extra damage. DIABLO ------ Again, I haven't played him enough to know too much. Down + 2 will do a lunging bite upwards, much like Talon. Down + 3+4 will do a tail trip, and you can usually hit with a Rushing Uppercut after the trip if you're fast enough. If you're fighting some guy who keeps throwing projectiles at you, time the Pulverizer (aka the Velcro.. try it on Blizzard and you'll see why) and stomp on them until they learn and stop (some people require more... ummm.. training than others. Be prepared to be called a cheezer ;). SAURON ------ He's pretty slow... I have trouble getting off most of his moves that involve moving the joystick up and down, except in combos. His Primal Scream (force shield) is good, but NEVER use it when your opponent isn't jumping. In case you hadn't noticed, it doesn't extend all the way to the ground, and it leaves you vulnerable to rushing or low attacks. The Stun Roar is pretty useless, the Earthquake Stomp is good with an inexperienced player or if you just get lucky. Whenever you trip your opponent, try and get a Cranium Crusher off... like Blizzard, you can usually hit them before they hit the ground, and it does a sizeable amount of damage. The Primal Scream works great against jumping opponents (takes off 50% brain), as does a well-timed fierce bite (1+2). And of course, we can't forget the Cranium Crusher's ability to wipe out jumping opponents. TALON (the Cheeze God) ----- Easiest player to master (and the most annoying). If you're new, pick him. His Pounce & Flip is the ONLY move you need to know. Whenever you hit someone on the ground, you can add that move in real quick for an extra 3 hits. Down + 4 is a short slide, and Down + 3+4 is a long slide. If your opponent is in the corner when you do this, or you're very fast, do a Pounce & Flip and you can hit them with it before the land. His Pounce & Flip will go under Sauron's Stun Roar, Blizzard's Cold Breath, and Vertigo's Venom and hit them before they recover. Most new players that play you will either ONLY use the Pounce & Flip, or ONLY use his Frantic Fury. In the case of the former, just block it, then do it right back at them. They will be unable to block and will take full damage. Usually they stop after a round or two. In the case of the repeated-Frantic-Fury-in-the-corner-cheeze, just do a slide. If you're trapped in the corner, try quick jabs (button 1). A standing 2 will do a quick bite upwards, and a Down + 2 will be a slower, but more powerful lunging bite upwards, both great for taking out jumping opponents. An annoying trick to do with Talon when someone jumps at you is to just hold down and do jabs (button 1). Usually their jumping move will miss, and you'll hit them a couple times with a jab, followed by a Pounce & Flip for an unblockable 5-hit combo. Of course, this labels you as a cheezer, and can get you beat up in some rougher arcades. Be warned! VERTIGO ------- Her tail is your best weapon. Even when blocked, it does enormous damage to your opponents brain guage. When jumping, always jump with button 4. It's a low tail swipe that will hit opponents below you with ease. This means that, with the possible exception of Armadon, if your opponent jumps too late, they'll be hit by the tail. If it hits, tap 3+4 quickly for a 2-hit tail combo. She has no upper attacks, meaning she has no way to hit opponents out of the air easily. Although if you jump backwards and hit 1+2, you might hit, and if you do a VooDoo Spell, the might land in front and be dizzied, or land behind and trip you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.2 General Strategies and Computer Fighting Styles ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ARMADON ------- Armadon is quite deadly, especially at higher difficulty levels. Jumping is not a good idea, he has too many air defenses. The only real way to fight him is to play very defensively. If you just walk backwards, he'll probably do a Spinning Death or Iron Maiden. On the Spinning Death, just block, bite him, back up, and wait. For the Iron Maiden, jump and hit him in the air. If you're too close, he'll try a Rushing Uppercut, just block and hit him. If you're REALLY too close, he'll try to trip you, then follow up with an unblockable Spinning Death for a large chunk of health. BLIZZARD -------- Blizzard is really only dangerous if he freezes you or you get too close. Again, don't jump at him unless he's doing his Cold Breath, or you'll most likely get caught by an Ice Geyser. If you just wait on the ground, he'll either do a Cold Breath or a Long Mega Punch, both of which can be blocked and countered. He may walk up to you first, but I have yet to see him just walk up and trip me. If you do jump at him, always power jump and wait until the last second to attack. If Blizzard freezes you in an Ice Geyser, but you're too high for him to hit (computer never does power jumps at close range), if you were attacking as you were jumping, you'll finish your move as soon as you unfreeze. This means that you try a jumping attack and get frozen, if you're high enough you still stand a good chance of unfreezing and hitting Blizzard anyway. CHAOS ----- This guy is just plain deadly at higher levels. If you jump, you'll probably be hit by a Batterng Ram. If you get knocked down, you should bock low or jump right away... he starts his combos before you even stand up again. One of his favorite tricks is to do the Fart of Fury, then while you're backing up to block, do a Ground Shaker, sending you up into the cloud. If you just stand there, he'll simply walk up and trip you, followed by a battering ram in most cases. The only time he's really vulnerable is when he's farting or puking. Also, if you wait until the very last possible second to attack when you jump at him, he usually won't do the battering ram in time to hit you. DIABLO ------ Not exactly hard, Diablo gets a little tough at high levels. He can time his Mega Lunge perfectly so that it hits you whenever you jump at him. The best time to get him is when he spits a fireball.. his head is such a nice, big target. Also, try jumping at him, but attacking at the last possible second. This usually delays his Mega Lunge long enough so that you either hit him first, or you land behind him and he lunges away from you. This leaves him vulnerable for a tail-trip or some other such move. You need to be just far enough away so that you would land ON him, not behind him, for this to work. SAURON ------ Sauron's pretty simple, unless you get unlucky or don't know how to play your character. If you jump, you'll probably get hit by his Primal Scream force shield, which knocks you down and takes half your brain. The time to panic is when Sauron jumps at you... he has this 4-hit combo that you'll learn to recognize the instant it's started, as it's really the only one he has... jumping tail, low bite, low tail, Cranium Crusher uppercut. Unless you have a full brain gauge when he does this, you'll be dizzy... and he usually will do it again... and then you're dead. Best time to get him is when he does his Stun Roar, just like Diablo. To make him do the Stun Roar, take a step or two forward, then walk backwards. 99% of the time he'll do it. So obediant, so.... stupid... TALON ----- This guy is death with large, pointy claws. Do NOT stay on the ground... he does combos no human could ever hope to pull off. The best idea is to stay far away on the ground, or better yet, keep jumping at him, attacking the instant you leave the ground. If done properly, Talon will jump and have his head bashed in by whatever extremity you chose to extend. He seems to jump more if, after you knock him down, you take 1 or 2 steps backwards, then power jump at him again. VERTIGO ------- She's actually pretty weak, unless you get too close. Her combos are blindingly fast, but don't do a massive amount of damage. She has the habit of almost always spitting venom twice in a row, rarely just once, even if she hits you with the first one (only if you stay on the ground though... if you jump, she won't do it). Jumping is the way to go, although you MUST hit your buttons before the gets off her attacks... She'll jump up, and try a 2, 1+2 bite combo. You pretty much beat her the way you do Talon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2.3 Specific Strategies ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 'Charging', in this Guide at least, refers to holding down the buttons for a move, while either standing still or walking (usually) backwards. Say you want to do Armadon's Spinning Death. That's buttons 1+4, then back, half-circle back. If you hold down the buttons then press back on the joystick, you're charging it... you need only flick the joystick in a fireball motion backwards to complete the move. However, if you push back on the joystick first, THEN press the buttons, you're charging the move AND walking backwards (I'll refer to the direction in brackets... ex. 'charging [back]'). It makes the moves much easier to time, and you're still blocking while doing it (for the moves starting with the back direction, anyway). The following is a list of ways to beat each of the computer players using any of the characters. These almost always work better than the general strategies. A lot of them are unknown at this point... just try using the general strategies and do the best you can. ARMADON vs. ----------- ** ARMADON - Pretty simple, if you get the timing right. Keep about a screen's length apart, then do the Rushing Uppercut. Usually, the computer Armadon will try to do a Hornication Uppercut, which results in you sticking your horn up his butt. Back up a screen length away, do it again after he stands up. The Rushing Uppercut, if done right, will also knock Armadon out of a Spinning Death and a Rushing Uppercut of his own. If you happen to time it wrong, and he blocks, he'll do 1 of two things : try to hit you with his horn. I this case, just back up and start over. Otherwise, he'll try to hit you with his tail twice. Unless you're really close, the first swing will miss. Do the Rushing Uppercut again quickly, or he'll knock you upside the head with a spiked tail. Also, you can play defensively and charge [back] the Spinning Death. When Armadon gets far away from you, he'll do his own Spinning Death. Block it, then return the favor. Just don't stay too close or he'll tail-trip/Spinning Death you. ** BLIZZARD - Again, pretty easy. Similar to Talon, you just get a screen length away, charging [back] either the Rushing Uppercut or the Spinning Death, and wait for a Long Mega Punch or a Cold Breath. As soon as he does either of those, do the Rushing Uppercut or Spinning Death (the latter is better, but leaves you more vulnerable if Blizzard blocks in time), and repeat. If you're good, you can finish him off faster by doing a jumping combo as soon as he does the Cold Breath. ** CHAOS - If you wait until the very last possible second before the round starts, and do a Spinning Death, it will USUALLY hit his Battering Ram (which he loves to start out with) before he gets a chance to move. ** DIABLO - Unknown. Just wait for a fireball and pound his head in. ** SAURON - Make Sauron do a Stun Roar, then do a Rushing Uppercut or a Spinning Death. Take 2 steps forward, then walk backwards, charging [back] the Rushing Uppercut or Spinning Death. That usually makes him do it again as soon as he stands up. Repeat as needed. ** TALON - He can be annoying at times, but usually isn't too difficult. The basic idea is to hit him with a strong horn (button 2) in the air. If the horn hits, immediately hit 1+2, for a quick 2-hit air combo. Just jump at him, and hit the buttons the instant you leave the ground. It works best if you're standing right next to him, as he'll take at least blocking damage if he doesn't jump. If you find he's hitting you in the air, try button 4 instead (wide tail swing, longer range). Don't just jump around at random though. When you knock him down, jump the instant he stands back up, not a second earlier. If you can time it right, do a jumping 2 instead. If it hits, immediately push buttons 1 and 2 for a quick 2-hit combo in the air. ** VERTIGO - Easy. Same idea as fighting Talon. Just get right next to her, and either do a jumping 2, 1+2 combo or a jumping 3+4. BLIZZARD vs. ------------ ** ARMADON - Same principle as fighting as Armadon vs. Armadon. You must get as close as you can to him ASAP. Usually, starting off with a Long Mega Punch works. The instant you finish the punch (you can start hitting the buttons early), do ducking jabs (down, button 1) until a jab misses from you being pushed back (usually the 2nd or 3rd). Then immediately do another Long Mega Punch, then start jabbing again. It actually works well, although he will occasionally hit you with a horn if he blocks your punch. ** BLIZZARD - Get as far back as you can, out of Mega Punch range. Then, just keep doing Cold Breaths. He'll usually respond with one of his own, cancelling it in the air. Eventually, though, he'll try and Mega Punch you. He'll be frozen, and you won't be hit unless you're too close. He looks like he's off the ground, but it's still possible to hit him with a nice jumping combo. Another trick is to just power jump at him with a 3+4 attack, but not actually attacking until you are directly over him. The only way he can hit you is to do an Ice Geyser, but you should be in the position that he'll jump up, miss you, and you'll unfreeze and land behind him, sometimes hitting him on the way down. The real trick to this is learning to anticipate his Cold Breath and do jump at him then... just remember this little trick with the Ice Geyser so if he recovers too fast, he won't be able to freeze and hit you. ** CHAOS - Stay as far away as you can, and Cold Breath him. He'll usually puke or something instead of blocking. If you have time, jump over the puke and combo him (remember, you can't do 2 freezes in 1 combo [ie, freeze, trip, ice geyser]... it's an auto-cheeze and will let Chaos out of the combo-stun early). Then back up as far as you can, and freeze him as soon as he gets back up. ** DIABLO - Unknown. Just bash his head in when he fireballs you. ** SAURON - The Cold Breath will usually cause Sauron to try a Leaping Bone Bash.... hopefully, he'll be frozen on the way up. If Sauron's cooperating and throwing a lot of Stun Roars, stya close and sweep him whenever he does. You'll duck the Stun Roar and trip him at the same time. ** TALON - Annoying little sucker, Talon is. As when playing as Armadon, you want to get close, then jump over him, attacking as soon as you leave the ground (button 2 or 3+4 works best). If it hits, or even if it doesn't, follow with an Air Throw. Usually taking 2 steps forward then jumping with an air throw seems to work pretty good. Talon will usually try and slide under any projectiles you throw at him, and follow up with a Pounce & Flip. If you can time it right, it is possible to do a Cold Breath right before he gets back up, catching him as he tries to slide under it. Walk up to him, do a Punching Bag with a high arcing uppercut, then do a normal jumping aerial attack, followed by an air throw. Then freeze him again, and repeat. Works well as long as you never miss with the Cold Breath... this isn't the way to beat him unless you are really good, or really bored (or both), but it looks good and is fun. ** VERTIGO - As with Talon, just jump at her (buttons 3 & 4 seem to work best on her). Don't forget your Air Throw. CHAOS vs. --------- ** ARMADON - Back up, as far as you can, even into a corner. Armadon will almost always do a Spinning Death. The instant you block it, do a Battering Ram. You'll hit him before he recovers, and be on the other side. Back up again, and repeat. ** BLIZZARD - Unknown. ** CHAOS - Unknown. ** DIABLO - The opposite of fighting Armadon. Keep doing Battering Rams into Diablo as fast as you can. He'll block the first one, try to bite you, but get hit by his second one instead. Wait until he stands up, then do it again. ** SAURON - Unknown. ** TALON - Unknown. ** VERTIGO - Unknown. DIABLO vs. ---------- ** ARMADON - This one works GREAT. First off, do an Inferno Flash (teleport). If you don't appear close to Armadon or he jumps away, teleport again until you appear right next to him. As soon as you do, do this... low 1 - low 1 - low 3+4 - Hot Foot (low bite, low bite, trip, hot foot) Unless you're really slow, he won't be able to block it. Then wait for him to stand up, and do it again! It works on players, too, though not as well. (If you can't get the Hot Foot off fast enough, just leave it out. The cheeze still works without it, just takes longer) ** BLIZZARD - This is a little tricky, but works pretty well. Stand a screen length away, wait for a Cold Breath. Immediately, do a Pulverizer. If you did it fast enough, you'll hit Blizzard before he recovers from his Cold Breath (and you'll see why we call the Pulverizer 'the Velcro' ;). Then walk backwards... he'll usually try a Cold Breath again. If he does a Long Mega Punch, you might be able to get off a Mega Lunge before he recovers. ** CHAOS - Exact same as Armadon. Teleport until you're close, then 2 low bites, trip, Hot Foot. Works GREAT! ** DIABLO - Try doing the Pulverizer as he spits fireballs at you. Hard to time, but effective if it hits. ** SAURON - Not totally effective, but will definately make you look really cheezy.... just keep teleporting (Inferno Flash) really, really fast. Usually Sauron will block, but if you're doing it fast enough, you'll toast him when he does try to attack. This works best in the corner. It also has the side effect of wearing out your wrist, and the joystick. Use at your own risk! (it's also an auto-cheeze if it hits 3 times in a row) You can also try to do a Pulverizer as he Stun Roars. See the General Computer Patterns on how to make him Stun Roar. ** TALON - Pretty much just jump over him and whack him with your tail. If you're about 3/4 of the screen away (or more), and you knock him down, throw a fast fireball. He'll try to slide under it but get hit instead. If you're too close, though, expect a trip - Pounce & Flip combo. ** VERTIGO - Unknown. SAURON vs. ---------- * quick note - Sauron's Air Throw will work as long as your opponent is off the gound, and is touching ANY part of your body. That means you can get some NASTY air combos off, followed by an air throw. Sauron is so big, if you're off the ground, you're touching at least his feet, which is enough for the throw. ** ARMADON - Back up. If he does any kind of rushing move (Rushing Uppercut, Spinning Death, etc), do a fierce bite (1+2). If you're close to the corner, do a power jump over him before he gets up... you have to do this when he's down - Sauron is so big, he'll never make it over Armadon's Bed-O-Nails. Also, if you're about a screen length apart, do a fierce bite (1+2) then keep walking backwards. He'll try to horn you, but you'll bite him in the face first. If you're too close when you do it, you'll be hit. ** BLIZZARD - If you're really fast, do a Leaping Bone Bash when he tries to freeze you with a Cold Breath. Otherwise, trying to hit him with a jumping combo works pretty good. ** CHAOS - If you're desperate, get back as far as you can and do Stun Roars. He'll usually do a Power Puke. You can block the puke, but he'll be hit by the Stun Roar. This will make him dizzy quickly, but you probably will have difficulty killing him in time with this strategy, as the Stun Roar does very little damage. ** DIABLO - If you jump over him, but don't attack until the last moment, you'll usually make him do a Mega Lunge that misses. You'll land behind him... do a tail-trip (low 3+4), followed by a Cranium Crusher before he hits the ground. ** SAURON - Unknown. ** TALON - Like being Blizzard. Jump at him with button 3 or 4, and do an air throw if it hits. ** VERTIGO - Just like playing as Blizzard. Jump at her (button 3 or 4 works fine), and do an air throw if it hits. TALON vs. --------- ** ARMADON - Suprisingly, this is one of the easier people to beat with Talon. Simply block any inital attack in the round, then do quick jabs (button 1). If he blocks, only do 2. If they hit, do 3 jabs. Then take 1 step forward, and repeat. If you do it quick enough (not too hard), you'll hit him before he can hit you. You can even hit him out of a Spinning Death this way. If you really want to impress that large crowd watching you in awe, try this combo... it's a little difficult to pull off consistently, though. Be sure to start pushing the jab (button 1) button before you finish the double slash, or it'll count as 2 small combos instead. Using the above rules (ie, if he blocks, 2 jabs then step forward), do this (assuming you hit on the first jab): jab - jab - jab - Double Slash - jab - jab - Pounce & Flip 9 hits, 50% damage, and lightning bolts up the kazoo. ** BLIZZARD - Again, quite easy. Stand where you are at the beginning, and when Blizzard does the Cold Breath or Long Mega Punch, do the Pounce and Flip. When you land, charge [standing] the Pounce and Flip, and repeat. Then there's always the 'Snapping Jaws Cheeze'. See section 4 below. ** CHAOS - If you time it just right, you can get a Pounce & Flip off as he's puking, but before the puke actually gets animated. The best way I've found is to knock him down some way, then wait. The instant you can see his head through the dust as he's getting up, do a Double Slash (doesn't matter where you are), the immediately do a Pounce & Flip again. The Double Slash has the effect of helping you time the P & F perfectly so that you hit Chaos just as he starts to puke. Also, when he's in the corner, a Pounce & Flip will usually draw a Fart of Fury from Chaos, instead of his usual Battering Ram. ** DIABLO - What I usually do is much like fighting Talon. If he gets close, I do 2 jabs (button 1) to push him back, then jump with 3+4. If he jumps you'll hit him. If he doesn't jump, he'll probably do a Mega Lunge, which should miss if you don't push the buttons until you are over him. Then do a long slide (low 3+4), and catch him from behind before he finishes his Mega Lunge. Repeat. ** SAURON - Wait for a Stun Roar, do a Pounce and Flip. When you land, walk up to Sauron until you touch him, then immediately walk backwards. This will usually cause Sauron to Stun Roar again. You know what to do from there. ** TALON - As with everyone else, keep jumping at him. Usually, the claw rake will work (jumping 1 & 2), although if Talon hits you a lot, switch to buttons 3 & 4. If you hit, push down on the joystick and hit button 2 (the 'Snapping Jaws') for that extra hit. If you jump, but find the computer Talon didn't, do 2 jabs (button 2), then jump again. It'll push him away from you, and will keep him from comboing you as you land. ** VERTIGO - Just beat the crap outta her with jumpkicks. As with veryone else, get close, and jump over her with buttons 3+4. And there's always the 'Snapping Jaws Cheeze'. See section 3 below. VERTIGO vs. ----------- ** ARMADON - Back up. As long as you stay out of tail-sweep range, you should be ok. If he does the Spinning Death or a Rushing Uppercut, block it and Fierce Bite (1+2) or do a Scorpion Sting. If he jumps, do a Fierce Bite and you should hit him before he lands on the ground. If he backs you into a corner, go into a defensive crouch (back+down), and wait until you can hit him (if you just hold back he'll tail-sweep you). Once you knock him down and you're near a corner, teleport, and repeat. It's also possible, but difficult, to block his Spinning Death, then do a trip (low 3+4) - Scorpion Sting combo. ** BLIZZARD - Unknown, except for the 'Snapping Jaws Cheeze'. See section 4 below. ** CHAOS - If you can time it right, and you're lucky, jump at him, and at the last possible second, hit button 4. That particular tail move is very low, and will probably hit him in the head as he tries to Battering Ram you. ** DIABLO - Unknown. ** SAURON - Unknown. ** TALON - Just like everyone else, jump at him (preferably when you're close to him). Hit button 4 as soon as you leave the gound. If it hits, quickly hit buttons 3+4 for an extra hit, then button 1 to bounce him again. ** VERTIGO - Just like fighting Talon above. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 3 Other Cool Stuff ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This section is other various Cheezes, bugs, and other interesting stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else, or I forgot to mention above. ** The 'Snapping Jaws Cheeze' ** This interesting AI glitch only seems to work with Talon and Vertigo, and has only been verified against Vertigo and Blizzard. Diablo seems like it should be possible to use it with, and Chaos and Armadon might fall for it, also. For Talon, it's a centered joystick and button 2. For Vertigo, it's a centered joystick and button 1. Basically what it is is getting just far enough away so your 'magic' bite doesn't quite hit. Then you just keep tapping the appropriate button. When not done right, you get your head bashed in. When done right, this happens: The first hit misses, the computer just stares at you. As you start the second bite, the computer tries to hit you. Your bite is too fast though, and you hit the computer instead. The next hit misses, and so on. Miss, bite, miss, bite, etc. So, in short... you just keep tapping the button, and they just keep getting hit until they're brain-fried. Be warned, though... I did this with Talon on Vertigo, and I REALLY pissed her off.... she killed me with some combos that were so fast I can't even tell you what she did (once she woke up, that is ;). ** The Armadon Shredder Bug ** This only works when you're Talon, and I've only seen it work against the computer Armadon on his stage. If you win and Armadon is all the way in the corner (which is usually the case if you use the Armadon Cheeze listed in Talon's section), do the shredder fatality. What will happen is Talon will spin around, drift over to Armadon, but that's it. He'll spin and spin for like 10-15 seconds, no blood, then drift off the edge of the screen. The whole time Armadon just stares at the sky, swaying back and forth like he's drunk. Still counts as a fatality though. ** The Slip-n-Slide Bug ** The computer has a part of code built in that pushes the two characters apart if they touch, so that the figures don't overlap, making them appear more solid (among other things). However, there is a bug in this code, which sometimes results in one character sliding all the way across the screen until he reaches the edge, sometimes taking the other character with him. It happens quite frequently with Armadon's Rushing Uppercut when it's blocked... he'll hit, then slide all the way across the screen. This is good. I was playing as Talon once, when it happened to me... I slid to the right... my opponent was to the right of me. I pushed him all the way into the corner. I just sat there, trying to back up, hitting the jab button. All he could do was block. I finally told him it was screwed up, and not to attack. I stopped doing anything, let the joystick center, and got out of it. Good for me, not good for him. ** The Rising Body Bug ** I have not seen this bug personally, but it's probably related to the Slip-n-Slide bug. It seems that one character had won the match, and Diablo was lying lifeless on the ground, when suddenly, his body rose up and flew off the screen at about a 60-degree angle. ** The Final Battle Bug ** This one's nice. If you can somehow manage, through a glitch in the game, to get any character other than Blizzard completely off the block any move you throw at them until they die. Since all your moves do more damage in the final round, you can work someone down quite fast even when the moves are blocked. Note, however, that any kind of grabbing move - Talon's Face Ripper, Chaos's Grab-N-Throw, etc - will cancel this bug and make the computer fight again. ** The Vertigo 'Bite the Crap Outta Them Forever' Bug ** This might work for others, but I've only seen it for Vertigo vs. Computer Armadon. The way the game works, it gives you time to finish off any combos even after your opponent's health runs out, so you don't mess up the fatality. Well, it seems Vertigo's bite is sooo quick, you can keep doing it theorectically forever. The guy playing didn't know what he was doing, so he was just pushing buttons. He finished off Armadon with a low jab, but didn't realize he had killed him. He kept hitting Armadon a good 10-20 times before he realized what was up and stopped. Armadon promptly fell over and didn't move =) -- What's an Auto-Cheeze? -- An auto-cheeze is any combination of moves that always brings up the game's 'No Cheeze' sign. Basically, any combo that involves freezing/dizzying your opponent twice. For example, a Voodoo spell to dizzy your opponent, then 2 bites, then a Come Slither will set it off, resulting in your opponent being released from Combo-Stun (tm). A Cold Breath by Blizzard, followed by a trip-Ice Geyser combo will set it off as well. Repeated unblocked Inferno Flashes by Diablo have the same effect, as does a jumpkick/Face Ripper by Talon. But remember.. no sign, no cheeze! (unless the guy you're playing is bigger than you =) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4 Where can I get the newest version of the Primal Rage FAQ and the Primal Rage Strategy Guide? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Either FTP to netcom.com and look in the directory /pub/vi/vidgames/faqs for : primalrg.txt - FAQ prsg1_7.faq - Strategy Guide, PR version 1.7 prsg2_3.faq - Strategy Guide, PR version 2.3 or send an e-mail message to ftp-request@netcom.com with the line: send /pub/vi/vidgames/faqs/primalrg.txt to your.address@here for the FAQ, or: send /pub/vi/vidgames/faqs/prsg1_7.faq to your.address@here for the Strategy Guide (PR version 1.7) or : send /pub/vi/vidgames/faqs/prsg2_3.faq to your.address@here for the Strategy Guide (PR version 2.3) (or put all of them!) Also, check out the WWW Primal Rage FAQ at: http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/cebarton/primal/primal-rage.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 I want your Cheeze! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have any suggestions or comments, possible ideas or any sure- fire ways to beat the computer (especially against Chaos... I really HATE Chaos), send them to : Todd.Sinclair@Castles.com or Ace@Community.net I'll reply to all messages I get... if you send one and don't hear anything in a couple days, send another message to the other address. My main mail place has problems with e-mail from time to time. Anyone out there got any cool Ascii pic I can put in the title? (besides the one in the FAQ) Not only will you get my gratitude, but you'll have your artwork admired by MILLIONS of people all over the WORLD!!! You'll be famous, and get a great job drawing ascii pics for $100,000 a year! Seriously! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 6 Credits ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ME!..........................................Wasting time on this Thing Andy Eddy (vidgames@netcom.com).................Keeping this FAQ around Typhoon@netcom.com......................................Blizzard Cheats Thoreau@umich.edu....................................Bugs and Chip Info Zio@netcom.com...........................................Armadon Cheats MINERVA@EMF.Lan.McGill.CA.................................Diablo Cheats Cebarton@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca......Adding this to the WWW PR FAQ And a bunch of anonymous people at Solano College who let me try moves on them, let me have rounds to try new stuff, and pumping in the quarters that keep the college tuition as low as it is =)