Note: Due to the problems once again of someone deleting messages, the system was once again placed into enter only (no deleteing, no changing allowed). 1 If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2 *************** INSTALLED: 13 OCT 84 ***************************** 3 Welcome to BWMS (BackWater Message System) Mike Day System operator 4 ************************************************************ 5 GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6 PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7 BWMS was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS is a privately owned 8 and operated system which is currently open for use by the general public. 9 No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the system is 10 privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all messages which 11 I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the system, it will be 12 periodically purged of messages. (only 629 lines of data can be saved) 13 To leave a message, type 'ENTER' and use ctrl/C or break to get out of the 14 ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering the 15 message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to replace 16 the line. To exit from the system, type 'OFF' then hang up. 17 Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18 ************************************************************ 19 20 ******************************************************************: 21 Until further notice, we will be running enter only until someone 22 out there learns a little bit of responsibility. 23 ******************* CISTOP MIKEY *********************************** 24 ]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[ 25 Mike, 26 Backwater is a good board, what is it run on? I have lately 27 been trying to simulate this board on a Apple but there has been no 28 luck yet. Did you write this for yourself or got it from a friend or 29 was it bought? Finding another system like this one has been on the 30 tough side. 31 Mark 32 ]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[ 33 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 34 From Prometheus: Gratefull 35 Cistop Mikey; Please don't get too frustrat, we aren't all like that. In fact most of us aren't at all. 36 [This enter only stuff isn't great for the complexion of my messages...] 37 I appreciate what you do for Backwater, and I thank you very, very much for it. It has done wonders for my maturity [I *am* 38 an adolescent after all] 39 My thanks to you. If I can help in any way please don't hesitate to ask. 40 Leonard; Please explain what you meant in more detail, please? 41 To whom that asked; MLCBBS should be up in about a week or so from what I've heard I go to MLC anyway. 42 [Error; exchange carriage return and periond for comma] and will post updates every few days, or so. 43 I'm going to quit while I'm behind as far as SPELLCHECK is concerned. 'Day all. 44 JUST VISUALIZE ALOT OF COLONS< JUST VISUALIZE ALOT OF COLONS< JUST VISUALIZE ALOT OF COLONS, JUST VISULALIZE ALOT OF COLONS... 45 Oh, yes, MiG; Your Tribble came in at a weight of about three ounces and is with S'rah at the moment. It's grey, don't ask how 46 , it justt is. 47 visualize more colons, so on, and so forth... 48 HI THERE L@THIS IS ABOEUT THE FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN BABLE TO GET INTO THIS NET. WHATS IT ALL ABOUT ALFE 49 BUT ONE INCH MAKES THREE. BUT THAT IS WHERE THE WEE PEOPLE MEET. THATS HERDE. 50 -=-- 51 --=--==--===--====--=====--======--=======--========--=========--========== 52 Hi all, 53 Why do we help other poeple, even when it puts us in danger? Why do 54 we give money, when we know we will never get it back? Are we as selfish 55 as the cynical cartoonists and editors (A random sampling of cynical sterotypes) 56 would have us to believe? Is there still good left in this world? 57 Of course there is good in the world, otherwise, who would run all the 58 BBS's? Putting up with the rampaging deleters can be a problem, but this 59 enter only mode seems to spoil their fun (Maybe they will go someplace else, 60 or get their own to mess up.) 61 A lot of people start out playing Good Sam, hoping to receive the same 62 the same treatment one day. But then, they get into a strange habit, 63 they start doing helpful things without thinking of future rewards. 64 The gratitude of the people they help seems to be enough to satisfy them. 65 Just go out and do something nice, it may happen to you.... 66 Sunday, 0:43 10/14/84 - Friar Tuck - 67 -==-==-==-==-==-==- 68 PASDOS: I like you add. It explains the need for and the uses of your 69 program. You fill a big gap. If we are going to have ads, keep them 70 useful and informative. (That means no "GALATICSN-SNAK = Great game, 71 send $10.") 72 73 If anyone wants my name, just remember I am a very sili-person on weekends.. 74 --==========--=========--========--=======--======--=====--====--===--==--=-- 75 Is there something strange going on? I just hung up, and BW called me. 76 Freaky. Have you got a flash button Mikey? Or is this WarGames. 77 Please get back to me.... - FT - 78 --==========--========--========--=======--======--=====--====--===--==--=-- 79 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/ 80 Oh no... enter only. now I have to fix this wretched mess again... 81 Mark:Pascal has one thing over basic, decent file handler routines. It woould take a few days on intense work to do it in 82 basic. The phone number isn/t even known to me yet, I have no idea of when it will be up for public use, it must be twit- 83 proof berefore it goes online. 84 Mikey:I am afraid that I am u~able to understand your reference to Nerdolux, mayhaps you could explane? or tell Aaron? 85 The reason that H would bother to put up a BW type system is that I *ENJOY* seeing people use there minds. I am one of those 86 few folks who get off on creating things and helping people.My only sugestion is that you use the board that I am currently 87 building to replace the one that BW normaly uses. It hooks up to a modem, 2 sa400's and a power supply. Hang in txere, anti-tw 88 it hardware can doo 89 can do wonders for a BBS's looks. 90 Theus:My tribble?!? in gray? why thank you! Can you be at MLC tuesday? 91 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?/MiG/? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ? ? ?/ 92 ? ? ? ? ? ? 93 Later, after some thought, " a very sili person on weekends"?? 94 perhaps you shoot paint pellits at people? 95 PASdos folks:Half of the functions you mentioned I have public domain stuff for, the other half I have been using a 96 disk editor to do for a coupla years ~ow. 97 thats "years now" 98 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?MiG again/? ? ? ? ? 99 100 && && && 101 The biggest problem with enter only is that I can't delete the above. For those of you who get here after Mikey 102 fixes things up, rest assured it is eminently deleteable. Consider it deleted, in spirit if not in fact. 103 && The Mad Actor && 104 && && && 105 The Poet noticed, as he monitored some of the more distant realities, that several people had taken the Magic 106 Words he had given them (top of drive B) to enter a very confusing but satisfying otherworld. One had even left 107 an addition to the cast of characters assembling there... someone named Chimp or Gibbon or something like that. 108 He smiled at the thought of his Backwater friends having someplace to go when they couldn't get into the Inn, 109 and sipped his last ale of the evening. Life was good. Maybe a quick check of that adventure his friends were on... 110 He gazed into his pocket just in time to see the flying horse he'd seen earlier disappearing into the maw of some 111 huge reality-nexus. Too late, he noticed the regular ripples marching across the Gate's face, ripples that could 112 only be the residual effects of his earlier tampering with reality... waves of shimmering green energy exploded 113 from his pocket, engulfing him. By the time the Innkeeper turned back to ask him to take care of his tab, he was 114 gone. Shrugging, the Innkeeper simply filed it away, without a thought of how he'd left without notice. 115 && TMA && 116 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 117 Mikey -- thanks for the rescue. That entry took quite a bit of work to get 118 right. Just now, only 4 lines look trashed, but just the same..... 119 ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 120 Many things in this world are addictive. We come to love our dependencies 121 on automobiles, creature comforts, music, adventure and other pleasurable 122 things. We can grow to despise ourselves due to dependencies on drugs -- 123 alcohol, tobacco, the vast street pharmacopia -- and for some the visceral 124 thrill of combat or the exhilaration of power that comes from taking a life. 125 Others seem positivley -- how can I phrase it? -- anti-addictive. Their minds 126 and bodies reject some of the addictive portions of our lives -- violently 127 reject in mindless spasms of agony -- reject as thouroughly as the piper was 128 rejecting the throat-burning remains of his breakfast. 129 As soon as the adrenaline push, put their by peril, faded, the piper began 130 to reflect on recent happenings. Over the past few weeks he had slipped out 131 of the Inn and befriended the pegasus in a quiet forest glade. He had felt no 132 sense of peril when, fascinated by the incredible beauty of this magnificent 133 beast, he had walked up to press his bearded face agains the silky warmth of 134 her white neck. Oblivious of peril, blinded by a wild, obsessive love, he 135 had spoken his hear to her as he came towards her in that clearing. He had not 136 noticed the tensing of the great flying muscles under the satin softness of 137 her coat -- he was lost in the deep pools of her eyes, caught in the 138 wind-whipped fabric of her mane. Only much later did he realize the mortal 139 danger he had faced that day. He had come to the clearing just to be near her, 140 and she had come out of the sky to meet him. A sudden gust, and she was 141 flung too near a tree, nearly a foot in diameter, over fifty feet tall. Heart 142 beating wildly, the piper waited with that strange sense of loss for her to 143 crash into that tree, the rending, breaking of beloved flesh into shapelessness 144 and death. It seemed to happen in slow motion. 145 His eyes caught every nuance. She turned sideways -- perhaps she would only 146 break a wing. Only break a wing! How do you set a pegasus' wing? 147 Suddenly, quick as thought, her wing snapped forward, propelled by the power 148 of the muscles that gave her the freedom of the skies. The wing was half 149 folded, and she struck the tree just inside the large main joint. The softly 150 feathered leading edge of her wing snapped through the bole of the tree, 151 pulling the base along with her. She had flown clear of the area and landed 152 before the tree had fallen and stopped quivering. He inspected it after she 153 left -- while she was there, he had no though of anything but her presence. 154 Her coat was unruffled, and the most minute inspection of the wing revealed 155 only a few drops of pitch that he carefully removed, but the tree she had 156 felled left a stump over six feet high, and the piper could not span the 157 splintered end with his hand. 158 These images -- the splintered tree, the graceful curve of her neck -- 159 dissolved into the terrible image of her wing striking into the face of the 160 ambusher. He reched helplessly, bent over a rock, as he remembered the 161 startled expression on --- the quick look of amazement and disbelief --- the 162 impact of the wing--- his fierce 163 joy as the being's head seemed to nearly explode in slow motion -- the agony 164 that showed in the eyes as they parted -- NO! NO! 165 166 167 168 He placed his arms about the pegasus' warm neck, buried his face in her mane, 169 and wept his heart out as she nickered and tried to comfort him. 170 pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 171 <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+> 172 173 DEAR MIG, 174 175 Hello, do you rember when you suggested a 'C' book for me? Well i still havent found it, however 176 ve a new toy(so to speek). You see one day i was wandering arround PCC. not realy doing aneything and suddenly 177 a rather tall man ran up to me and said(Allmost yelled more like)" Do you want PASCALL?", i said sure so hear i 178 179 am, plagued(sp) with this coppy of pascal. So, what was this message about?. Oh ya now i rember(i have problems 180 on sundays i tend to get a bit long winded ans (did your screen just do something? mine did)oh well, to make a 181 long story even longer. do you know of aney good pascal books? 182 THANX 183 ASP? 184 185 <+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+><+> 186 187 188 PASDOS 189 BY 190 LINNTON SYSTEMS 191 192 193 Portland, Oregon 97231 194 (503) 286-xxxx 195 196 ---- $39.95 INCLUDES SHIPPING ---- 197 198 PASDOS is a utility program written in Pascal and assembly for the Apple II 199 computer to allow transfers of files between Dos 3.3 and U.C.S.D 200 Pascal. 201 Pasdos will run under both the old and new versions of Apple Pascal. 202 203 Using this program one is able to 204 205 1..View a Pascal directory or a Dos 3.3 catalog. 206 A single keystroke command determines and displays 207 the proper directory (Pascal or Dos) from the drive 208 selected. 209 210 2..Transfer text files in both directions with automatic conversion. 211 Text files from Dos 3.3 are made compatible with the U.C.S.D. 212 editor and Pascal compiler. Text files generated with the 213 Pascal editor are made compatible with many word proccessors 214 that run under Dos 3.3. 215 216 3..Transfer other files with optional addition or removal of the 217 Dos 3.3 length and starting address header. 218 219 4..Use the U.C.S.D. Assembler to generate binary files that 220 can be 'brun' under Dos 3.3. 221 222 5..Demonstrations are included to show you how to transfer and 223 load hires picture files, and how to use the U.C.S.D 224 assembler to create binary programs that will run under 225 Dos 3.3. 226 227 6..Various data base programs are written under Dos 3.3 or Pascal. 228 With Pasdos you can transfer hires graphs to your favorite 229 operating system for printer dumps etc. 230 231 SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS 232 233 Pasdos requires that you have Pascal and Dos 3.3. 234 You must have two floppy drives. 235 236 237 I hear rumors that there are some alleged 68000 knowledgable people out there. All though I doubt they really know 238 what they are talking about, I would like to ask them a few questions regarding the MPU they think they know so 239 well. Many unsuspecting or innocent junior level hardware hackers consider the 68000 to be a very regulat 240 processor. Orthagonal (look it up) is the word the quote-unquote experts use. Defenders, not the ones here I 241 imagine, can make excuses for the many irregularities found equating them with the inline philosophy of the 242 original architects. But some of these irregularities go beyond simple design philishophy. I wish to propose 243 entering some of these irregularities here on this board that is so laden with experts, and see what their 244 reponses are. If I get no reponses, then I will know the rumors of expertise I heard were just rumors, and 245 once again some group is having 246 their collective leg pulled by a phony. 247 1) The CMP instruction performs is subtraction in the opposite order from most other machines; the sequence CMP P,Q; 248 BLT LAB branches if Q