NUMBER OF LINES: 999 001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19 1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2$************************* INSTALLED: 30 SEP 88 *************************** 3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator 4$************************************************************************** 5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately 8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general 9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the 10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all 11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the 12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data 13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out 14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering 15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to 16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up. 17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18$************************************************************************** 19$ 002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 09/30/88 19:35 Msg:2425 Call:10005013 Lines:3 20 Common sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom. 21 Samuel Taylor Coleridge 22 ************************************************************************ 003=Usr:214 The Mysterious F 09/30/88 19:42 Msg:2426 Call:10005014 Lines:16 23 ----------------------- 24 Oh, boy! I get to be the first one. Wowie zoobers, man. 25 26 Signer, I realize that religion is an act of faith in many senses. But 27 I don't understand how someone can have faith in something without a 28 great deal of evidence showing that it is true. I happen to see evidence 29 all around me that indicates that nothing intelligent but this stuff 30 together. When I think logically about things, I come to the same 31 conclusion. But I'm always open to evidence that I may have missed, or 32 lines of reasoning that I haven't thought of. I'll admit that it's 33 going to take one hell of an argument to get me to change my mind. But 34 if you have that argument, I'll listen to you. (Even if you don't, I'll 35 listen to you as long as you're reasonable.) 36 37 Bill & Opus in 88! 38 ----------------------- Fred? 004=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/30/88 20:31 Msg:2427 Call:10005015 Lines:25 39 &*&*&*&*'s 40 I think the problem is one of scale. I recently saw somebody give an example of 41 a brocken watch in a dryer. It went to the effect that if you were to put a 42 brocken watch in a dryer and let it spin it would never again be whole. At 43 least after a few million years or so. 44 45 While this is probably correct it fails to address the scale of the universe. 46 For just a moment assume that without the shadow of a doubt we are the only 47 living intelagent life in the entire universe. Now, Given BILLIONS of years 48 the odds of Life emerging in the known universe suddenly become very good. 49 The possibility of even intelagent life becomes very good. 50 51 Note that all this assumes that it is hard/nearly impossible for life to 52 emerge on a given planet. If it were in fact common there would be life 53 everywere. 54 55 I am not saying that God does not exist, But I am saying that it does not 56 take the existance of any sort of God to explain our being here. 57 58 I to await the arival of more peaple at the Inn at the crossroads! (Come on in 59 folks, There's plenty of room for all!) 60 61 An Astral Dreamer. 62 &*&*&*&*'s 63 005=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/01/88 00:04 Msg:2428 Call:10005023 Lines:11 64 --------------------------->OK OK NOW<----------------------------------------- 65 66 Let's not get into one of those Religious or Political discussions as it was 67 bad enough last time! Start a story or something.! UUUUGH these messages about 68 Anarchy are as boring as Religion....... What ever happened to those good 69 short stories people used to write 2 years ago??? EH? I'll bet your asking why 70 don't I shut up and write one. The prob is I don't have one quite yet. I'll 71 be back..............Like who cares 72 ------------->STIKKY<---------------------------------------------------------- 73 74 @ NUKE THE SMURFS & DRINK BEER @ 006=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/01/88 01:23 Msg:2429 Call:10005025 Lines:13 75 &*&*&*&*'s 76 Ok, a short story. I'll work on it. Currently I seem to be suffering from 77 writters block. My last bought lasted 6 years. (Some peaple probably wish it 78 had lasted forever.) hopefully this one will me shorter. 79 80 Menwhile I am, 81 82 The wanderer at the Inn. 83 84 AKA 85 An Astral Dreamer. 86 &*&*&*&*'s 87 007=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/01/88 03:17 Msg:2430 Call:10005027 Lines:16 88 89 {} 90 91 Ok, how about apathy for a government? I finally found the word 92 that describes what I see. And, I DIDN'T say ANARCHY, I said 93 ANARCHISM. ANARCHY is complete chaos and disorder. ANARCHISM 94 is simply the lack of a government. Got it straight? 95 96 * * * 97 98 "Wonderer, where is everyone? I guess we'll just have to 99 summon them at an appropriate time...so what should we do?" 100 101 Hagbard Celine 102 103 {} 008=Usr:322 Stray Cat 10/01/88 12:12 Msg:2431 Call:10005032 Lines:8 104 105 Years ago I woke up with a start, sure my house was bugged. Maybe it was 106 the eye contact in the mirror that startled me. 107 108 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%What the h*ll ????!!+++++ 109 110 . . . it has been fascinating but a little scary 111 009=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 10/01/88 12:25 Msg:2432 Call:10005033 Lines:15 112 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | New Term Prog. Bear with Meeeeeeeeeeeeee 113 114 H'lo agin. I agree with Hagbard. You people (and other things) need to 115 pay more attention. 116 117 Personally, I prefer having fun to discusing political theory (it doesn't 118 make my brain hurt as much), so for now:...... 119 120 _ /: 121 \'o.O' 122 =(___)= 123 |U| 124 | | Bill the Cat and Opus in '88!!!!!!!!! 125 126 KKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Politics are best left in the back yarddddddd 010=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/01/88 12:54 Msg:2433 Call:10005034 Lines:11 127 &*&*&*&*'s 128 I like it Kurfur. Looks classy. 129 130 Hagbard, I suppose a summoning might be in order. Hopefully the Inn will be 131 filling up RSN though so IMHO we should wait a moment or two. 132 133 Word Wrap? 134 135 An Astral Dreamer. 136 &*&*&*&*'s 137 011=Usr:322 Stray Cat 10/01/88 16:05 Msg:2434 Call:10005036 Lines:23 138@ 139@%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 140@ 141@sometimes I think maybe even my mind is too 142@%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% 143 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 144 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 145 ============================================================================ 146 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 147 148 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 149 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\///////////////////////////////// 150 **************************************************************************** 151 152 153 Since when are changes not allowed?????????????>??????? 154 what a pisser 155 156 157 I'm in for some strong behavior modification and one of the first things to 158 go should be this stupid bbsing. 159 160 I have been doing better lately . . . 012=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 10/01/88 18:26 Msg:2435 Call:10005041 Lines:7 161 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User twoeightythree, I guess##### 162 Hmmmm.... It appears that we have a problem here: Some good 'ole users 163 bugging others with their conversation about pahlaticks. hmmm.. I guess 164 I agree with politics being for the back yard.. and Bill And Opus in 88... 165 166 Control C 167 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@################################# 013=Usr:603 tanya UUPC 10/01/88 20:17 Msg:2436 Call:10005045 Lines:3 168 well, well, look who is here, ( zap them all ) 169 ---> a over cooked computer....HOT HOT.... 170 014=Usr:4 Milchar 10/01/88 20:23 Msg:2437 Call:10005046 Lines:5 171 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 172 A simple MilchLURK for those who know me... my other-world persona has 173 taken up responsibilities that occupy much of his time. Seems I have missed 174 a disk or two, mayhap three.... 175 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milch ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 015=Usr:577 George Raft 10/01/88 21:30 Msg:2438 Call:10005049 Lines:1 176 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 016=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/01/88 21:57 Msg:2439 Call:10005050 Lines:8 177 *-- it's 5:00 pm & I'm eating frozen pizza. Taste pretty good actually. When 178 I always eat frozen pizza my lips stick to the pepporoni and then my lips have 179 to be surgically removed with a scalpul. Remember to vote for Fred Rogers in 180 88 cuz he's the most likely. Tom Peterson is also a highly recommended cand- 181 idiate. Y'know why is their only one female smurf. well adios amigos , so 182 long..................$$--BLAH BLAH--$$(kinky sex makes the world go around--$$ 183 184 017=Usr:113 James Of Cassand 10/01/88 22:57 Msg:2440 Call:10005051 Lines:19 185 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++))))) 186 187 Everybody Listen! 188 189 Your going to wake up tommorow and be nice to everybody you meet. 190 191 They will be nice to you! 192 193 The world will be a wonderfull place! 194 195 If everybody does as I say all of the above is true! 196 197 Is the above "True" 198 199 I hope it is... 200 201 James of Cassandra. 202 !!!!!@@@@@#####$$$$$+++++))))) 203 018=Usr:577 George Raft 10/01/88 23:07 Msg:2441 Call:10005052 Lines:44 204 >..........>.........>........>.......>......>.....>....>...>..>.>Raft 205 "Those who live in a society must obey its laws, particularly 206 those laws whose purpose is to provide for the protection of its 207 citizens. You have been charged and found guilty by a jury of your 208 peers of murder in the first degree... and a murder society finds 209 exceptionally heinous because it was committed against a potential 210 citizen with no knowledge or ability to defend against your 211 aggressions. You are thereby remanded to the custody of the bailiff 212 and are to be incarcerated until such time as your execution can be 213 arranged. Bailiff? Court is adjourned." 214 "All rise..." Chairs slide, feet scuffle, voices murmur, the 215 elderly judge rises and glides swiftly from the wood paneled room. 216 A woman sits in stunned silence at the defense table, her face 217 frozen. She always knew intellectually that it might come to this, 218 but still she was emotionally unprepared for what had happened. 219 "Don't worry sweetheart, this isn't over yet," the slickness in a 220 Brooks Brothers suit whispers in her ear, a feral gleam in his eyes, 221 "we can wrap them up in appeals for years. This is a test case, you 222 know. They'll let it go all the way to the Supreme Court if 223 necessary. What an opportunity!" 224 "Yes, what an opportunity," the woman responds in a quiet 225 monotone. "I've always wanted to spend the rest of my life in court." 226 "Now look here you silly bimbo! If you didn't want to wind up in 227 jail you shouldn't have used those damn birth conrol pills! Since 228 the perfection of cloning the laws declaring a fertilized ovum to be 229 legally human, and thus possessing all the rights of any other 230 citizen, have been extended to any cell grouping with the right 231 genetic material. By killing your ovum you committed murder in the 232 eyes of the law." Mr. GQ raises his head to look down his nose. 233 "And in my eyes too, to tell you the truth. If it weren't that this 234 case had so much potential for career advancement I would never have 235 taken it when I got the call from the Legal Aid office." 236 The bailiff, accompanied by the courthouse matron, forces the 237 woman to her feet, a hand on each elbow. The woman makes no effort to 238 resist. 239 "Can I say one more thing to my lawyer before we go back?" the 240 woman asks quietly. 241 "Just be quick," the matron responds. 242 The woman leans forward until her face is only two feet from 243 her attorney's, makes an odd noise in the back of her throat, and 244 noisily deposits a load of phlegm on his face. 245 "There's a lot of genetic material in saliva too, creep!" she 246 screams as she is dragged from the room. 247 >..........>.........>........>.......>......>.....>....>...>..>.>Raft 019=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/03/88 00:52 Msg:2442 Call:10005086 Lines:5 248 ************************************************************ 249 Woah, what a downer. The ultimate conservative view point. 250 Don't you just love men who think they have a right to tell 251 a woman what she can do with her body? 252 ************************************************************ 020=Usr:539 Renee Holmes 10/03/88 06:23 Msg:2443 Call:10005088 Lines:4 253 ********************** October 3, 1988 ***************************** 254 Right on!!! 255 -Renee- 256 ******************************************************************** 021=Usr:71 David Shult 10/03/88 10:50 Msg:2444 Call:10005092 Lines:60 257 696969696969 258 Nomination for the "Ten Best Censored Stories of 1987" 259 260 TUNING OUT NON-IONIZING RADIATION AND PUBLIC HEALTH/SAFETY HAZARDS 261 262 Growing evidence that long wave non-ionizing radiation used in 263 electromagnetic devices, microwave products, and TV/radio systems is 264 harmful to the public's health, hazardous to effective public safety 265 systems, and threatening to military security went largely unreported 266 by America's media in 1987. Also underreported were the related 267 issues of the Environmental Protection Agency's shut-down of its 268 funded programs to study non-ionizing radiation in light of a 1989 269 deadline to establish safety standards for public exposure to radio 270 frequencies, and, the lawsuit brought against the Reagan 271 administration by a coalition of plaintiffs who charge that the 272 administration has violated the National Enviromental Policy act by 273 not adequately protecting the public and environment from the "Hazard 274 of Electromagnetic Radiation to Ordnance" (HERO). 275 Studies that suggest links between electromagetic fields (such a 276 those produced by overhead power lines, broadcast towers, military 277 hardware, hairdryers, microwave ovens, computers, TV and two-way 278 radios, and radar), and cellular mutation, cancer, and childhood 279 leukemia have received little attention. University of North Carolina 280 epidemiologist David Savitz confirmed earlier reports about the 281 apparent public health hazard. Savitz emphasized the need for furthe 282 research and more federal funding to determine the extent of this 283 potential health risk. Fifteen of 17 occupational studies have 284 established links between exposure to low frequency electromagnetic 285 fields and cancer. Despite this mounting evidence, the EPA shut down 286 its program to study non-ionizing radiation which is supposed to set 287 acceptable levels of exposure for humans and the environment by 1989. 288 Meanwhile, total federal funding to study the health effects of low 289 frequency fields has dropped from $10 million to just $2.5 million. 290 A coalition of Pentagon watchdog organizations and individuals 291 has brought suit against the government charging Reagan administratio 292 officials with willful negligence in protecting the public from the 293 HERO effect. Though the Navy and Army have been aware, for some 33 294 years, of the hazard that electromagnetism poses to weapon systems, 295 the Pentagon has acknowledged very little about the hazards that 296 accidental explosions caused by various electromagnetic sources pose 297 to public and environmental safety. The plaintiffs cite five specifi 298 HERO related accidents, including the 1967 explosion on board the USS 299 Forrestal which claimed 134 lives, along with a possible 25 other HER 300 related accidents that have occurred over the past 25 k;years. 301 Finally, in a continuing conflict related to the issue of 302 electromagnetic radiation and its effects on public safety and health 303 radar specialist veterans have been filing health claims, related to 304 their exposrue to low frequency radiation, against the Veterans 305 Administration. All claims to date have been rejected. 306 With such a newsworthy issue as the effects of electromagnetic 307 radiation on public health and safety so clearly being played out 308 during 1987, the news media, for the most part, failed to tune in. 309 310 SOURCES: KQED-TV 9, "EXPRESS," 12/9/87, "Radiation Risk?," by 311 David Helvarg; RECON, Vol. 10, #4, January 1988, "HERO: Deadly Game o 312 Roulette," by Patricia Axelrod, pp 1,2,8. 313 314 696969696969696969 315 316 ] 022=Usr:599 rich sichel 10/03/88 13:10 Msg:2445 Call:10005093 Lines:7 317 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777 318 Ever wonder why David Helvarg didn't even hint at the most dangerous 319 radiation sources aimed intentionally to everyone of us? 320 I'm referring to police's radar gun. That blatant criminal and 321 injurious device is pointed at us everyday. But nobody ever squeaked 322 a pip. Could David Helvarg a PIG (Police In Guise)? 323 777777777777777777777777777rich77777777777777777 023=Usr:562 Blank Doe 10/03/88 15:29 Msg:2446 Call:10005097 Lines:14 324 THIS IS WORLD WATCH THREE>>>>>>>>>> 325 Voted #1 censored stories of 1983. 326 327 The Government has once again manipulated the press. In this case it was the 328 neuclear exchange between the United States of America and the Union of the 329 Soviet Socilist Republic in October of 1983. At approximately 2:30 am on the 330 mornig of Oct. 2nd The USSR launched an all-out neuclear attack. Upon 331 the detection of the attack, the USA launched a counter offensive. 332 Both the USA and USSR were vaporized. Both the governments of the US and USS 333 successfully stopeed the story from leaking to the news media. 334 335 For world watch three, I'm blank doe 336 NW0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww3 337 ^b 024=Usr:71 David Shult 10/03/88 18:09 Msg:2447 Call:10005101 Lines:71 338 696969696969 339 With the release of a hostage today, and the charges that George Bush may be 340 negotiating in the release...it certainly seems that history is trying to 341 repeat itself: 342 343 Nomination for the "Ten Best Censored Stories of 1987" 344 345 REAGAN'S 1980 "OCTOBER SURPRISE" -- ARMS FOR HOSTAGES 346 347 In October 1980, nothing worried the Reagan campaign as much as 348 the possibility that the 52 hostages held by Iran might come home. 349 A "paramilitary wing" created by Reagan's campaign staff to prevent 350 such a possibility was largely unreported in 1987. 351 The revelations report that then campaign manager William J. 352 Casey headed an "October surprise" team engaging the services of both 353 retired and active military personnel. 354 During the course of the 1980 campaign, campaign leaders Richard 355 Allen, Edwin Meese, and Casey became concerned, almost to the point of 356 paranoia (according to journalists Jack Germond and Jules Witcover) 357 that Carter would get the hostages released thereby stealing away 358 Reagan's election momentum and assuring Carter of re-election. 359 Following is a brief overview of the reported activities of 360 Reagan's "October 1980 surprise" team: 361 Various reports reveal that Casey's "paramilitary wing" 362 monitored U.S. military movements for the Reagan campaign, met with 363 representatives of the Bani-Sadr government of Iran, and covertly 364 obtained President Carter's debate briefing materials prior to the 365 November election. 366 These revelations alone carry enormous constitutional 367 implications -- private citizens soliciting military and intelligence 368 assistance in monitoring U.S. government operations, private citizens 369 meeting with foreign dignitaries in possible state negotiations, and 370 private citizens clandestinely obtaining property of the United States 371 President -- and yet they were not followed up by the major media once 372 discovered and revealed in small, non-mass media publications. 373 Even more disturbing is the issue of Iranian arms shipments. 374 Documents confirm that within its first month, the Reagan 375 administration gave a green light to Israel to resume its arms 376 shipments to the Iranian government. 377 These revelations support former Iranian President Bani-Sadr's 378 assertion that the arms supply contract Iran signed with Israel in 379 March 1981, less than two months after Reagan's inauguration, was the 380 payoff for delaying the release of the American hostages until after 381 the November 4, 1980 election. 382 The hostages remained in captivity until January 20, 1981, the 383 day Reagan took the oath of office, and they left Teheran minutes 384 after he became president. 385 A conspiracy between a presidential candidate and a hostile 386 foreign power against an incumbent president would seem to be without 387 precedent in American history. At the very least, it would seem that 388 the documented charges revealed by a few journalists last year 389 deserved to be investigated for the benefit of the American public by 390 the U.S. media. 391 392 SOURCES: L.A. WEEKLY, 7/10/87, "Reagan's 1980 Hostage Deal," by 393 Barbara Honegger with Jim Naureckas, pp 12, 14, 16; THE NATION, 394 6/20/87 (p 842), 7/4/87 (p 7), 8/1/87 (p 80), 10/24/87 (p 440), 395 11/21/87 (p 582), "Minority Report," all by Christopher Hitchens; S.F. 396 EXAMINER, 7/12/87, "October Surprise," by Warren Hinckle, p A-13. 397 398 (Please listen to Jackson Browne's "Lives in the Balance" while reading the 399 above. And remember that virtually all the currently held hostages are 400 current or "former" agents of US intelligence agencies. The civilians had been 401 strenuously warned to stay out of the extreme danger areas they were kidnap- 402 ped in. It is still an outrage that those that claim to represent the 403 "Christian" Ethic (Bush/Reagan/etc) are willing to play politics with other 404 people's lives. Maybe we could trade Dan Quayle for a couple of them?) 405 406 696969696969696969 407 408 025=Usr:283 KEVIN CONNELL 10/03/88 18:46 Msg:2448 Call:10005102 Lines:4 409 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@User twoeightythree!, I hope!############# 410 hey kurfur, is it some odd ironicy that your user number is 69? 411 what exactly does tat symbolize? 412 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@################################ 026=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/03/88 21:54 Msg:2449 Call:10005106 Lines:6 413 *************************************************************************** 414 Hey, I know, if a man "sins" (in the Christain ethic this would be fornicating 415 outside of wedlock) then he should have the equipment that commited the offense 416 cut off. That way he won't be able to commit the offense again. That sounds 417 to me like a good conservative solution to the problem. 418 ************************************************************************** 027=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/04/88 00:09 Msg:2450 Call:10005111 Lines:22 419 &*&*&*&*'s 420 Well, I have NO problems with a women doing anything with her body she wishes. 421 I do howver have moral problems with allowing her to take the life of an 422 unborn child. You don't get pregnant by sitting on dirty toilet seats. 423 424 Now, I would also say that the man should be legally bound to the child as 425 well. Put the Basterd in jail if he won't support his part of the 426 responsibility. 427 428 Don't mess around unless your prepared. If a man presures you and you don't 429 feel as if you want to, I (as a man) would say do what ever is neccasry to 430 discourage him. (Baseball bat, karate etc.) 431 432 The only issue here is wether the unborn are humen. If they are then abortion 433 is murder. It's as simple as that. 434 435 (Please don't flame me, I am sincere and really would like to here reasonable 436 arguments.) 437 438 Thank you, 439 An Astral Dreamer. 440 &*&*&*&*'s 028=Usr:539 Renee Holmes 10/04/88 06:19 Msg:2451 Call:10005115 Lines:10 441 ***************************** September 4 ********************************** 442 There are cases where I agree, abortion should not be used as a birth 443 control. But you cannot even imagine carrying something around inside you 444 for nine months, that is the product of a rape. Rape is cause for serious 445 counseling in and of itself, having to deliver a baby as a result of it, you 446 cannot even comprehend, I can't I haven't gone through it. No, abortion 447 has to be a choice open to a woman, she is the one who will live with the 448 decision. 449 -Renee- 450 ***************************************************************************** 029=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/04/88 14:28 Msg:2452 Call:10005122 Lines:2 451 Fickt Euch Doch In Arsch!!!!(FEDIA) 452 030=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 10/04/88 17:10 Msg:2453 Call:10005126 Lines:14 453 ----=-===-=-----------=-==========-=---------=-===========-=-----------=-=== 454 Once again Renee, you must ask, is the child human? To murder a human for 455 the deed of its father...not something I'd like to see come into common 456 practice. But then it is not so much a human as something with human 457 potential (If you kill a catapiller have you killed a butterfly?). I just 458 don't know what to think. I've never thought of death as being so bad, but 459 only when delt with respectfuly, I hardly consider abortion respectful (It 460 is often so calous and uncareing). I agree the woman needs the ability to 461 make a choice, but what of the potential human... 462 463 Lord Beaker \-\-\-\-\-\-\-\__/ 464 o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oo 465 7''abernaky-y-y-y-y-y-y-y-y 466 -=-=-=--{=====-=------=---------=====-=--------=-=-=======--------======--=- 031=Usr:588 Wayne S. 10/04/88 17:38 Msg:2454 Call:10005127 Lines:23 467 =================================================================== 468 469 I am a male who agrees with the viewpoint that abortion is "morally" 471 wrong. But I do not believe there is enough evidence of when the human 472 fetus becomes a person to support all the mass hysteria that seems to 474 surround the subject (i.e. The Moral Right). I choose now that my wife 475 not have an abortion even in the case of rape. But I would not pretend 476 that nothing could possibly change my choice should I experience the rea- 477 lity of that situation, nor would I endeavor to pressure my wife to 478 abide by my choice should she choose differently. I suppose there is 479 some hypocrisy in that if the choice had to be made between the life of 480 an unborn baby and the life of my wife, I would not hesitate to choose 481 an abortion. I believe this is not a question of morals that make or 482 break civilization. These are the morals that persons must decide for 483 themselves if they can live with their choice, and if they believe in a 484 God, can they consider their actions moral in the context of their reli- 485 gious beliefs. Anyone else? 486 487 Signer 488 489 ======================================================================= 032=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/04/88 20:35 Msg:2455 Call:10005129 Lines:8 490 Good God shagy we've got a 'abortion' debte going on here? Why don't we 491 change the subject to Nuclear Arms Race? Or Teenagers using drugs? Or Green 492 house effect which is all going to kill us within the next century if nuclear 493 arms don't grab on to is first! C'mon people! This is not a board for debate! 494 At least I would assume not! Good nite & Good rittens! 495 ///////////////////////?SCOOOOOOOOBY DOOOOOOOOO?//////////////////////////// 496 497 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWZY&Z(I learned that in 10th grade!) ->Moron! 033=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 10/04/88 21:34 Msg:2456 Call:10005132 Lines:35 498 *************************************************************************** 499 Who says BW is not a board for debate (or even tht it is a debatable boar 500 Debates have always been here. 501 The problem with abortion is that it is such an emotional and thus religous 502 tied issue that it is essentially impossible for any consensous to be 503 achieved. Myself, I recognise that there are many view points to life 504 and that my own view point is just that, my own. I do not try to demand that 505 the whole world should live the way I believe. On the same note I don't care 506 much for people who think they have a God given right to tell me what I 507 should or should not believe. 508 Thus I don't feel that I or anyone else has any right to demand that 509 a woman have or not have an abortion. that is a decision that only she can 510 make based on her own beliefs. No one else has the right to presume that 511 they can make a decision for her. 512 From a personal standpoint, if I had to make the decision, I would look 513 at it based on the situation. One thing to always remember is that the woman 514 can (with a few exceptions) concieve multiple times. Whereas her own life 515 is but once. In that regard I have absolutely no misgivings. The woman's 516 life is more important. 517 Then come the less certain areas, what about emotional stability and 518 quality of life? Should a woman be forced to bare a child that was unwanted 519 due to rape or other type circumstances? There are emense emotional wounds 520 that go with this. WOuld you forever destroy her life by demanding that she 521 carry full term something thatwill reminder her of this for the rest of 522 her life? I personally feel that no one has any right to demand that she 523 do something that will damage her either physically or emotionally. 524 And what of the child? think of the world of hatred and lonelyness that 525 it would be forced into. It would be far better to wait for a time when the 526 mother is able to deal with it on a more emotionally stable position 527 (if at all). 528 A persons sanity is as important as their life. What good is it to save 529 one life when you've destroyed another. The woman can conceive again when she 530 is physically and emotionally ready. Thus I lean in the direction that 531 only the woman can make the decision. 532 ************************************************************************** 034=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/05/88 01:22 Msg:2457 Call:10005136 Lines:100 533 534 {} 535 536 In my most Humble Opinion, I feel that abortion is an issue that should 537 be decided upon by the person it directly affects. Who recieves the most 538 impact from an unwanted pregnancy? The woman. Who is the most vulnerable 539 in terms of economic, social, and physical standings? The woman. Who 540 does not directly come under the effects of the pregnancy? The man. 541 Because our society is founded upon much of Old English values (don't 542 believe me? Read your history again...), and those values carried a heavy 543 bias in favor of the male, the female involved will, by natural consequence 544 and logic, suffer. It is not for men to decide the fate of women, for 545 the male body (and in the case of our society) and life(style) are 546 not directly implicated in a pregnancy. Women should be given the 547 choice to allow or disallow abortions; I say this because we still 548 live in a male-dominated society. I do NOT promote the feminist 549 movement; for that is a falacy; basically, fighting chauvanism with 550 chauvanism. They have become just as bad as the people they fight 551 against; and their rhetoric is just as degrading as that of the 552 Male Chauvanist. Because abortion is quickly becoming more of a 553 social issue, and society still has the male bias in it, I feel that 554 the issue comes to letting a (mature) woman decide if the pregnancy 555 is to be left or aborted. Also, you can't say abortion is 556 'in toto' immoral. Women FREQUENTLY and SPONTANEOUSLY abort 557 possible pregnancies, without their knowledge. Spontaneous abortion 558 occurs about 25% to 50% of the time. Otherwise, the pregnancy rate 559 in the 'United States' would be many many many many times higher. 560 The reason that this is a little-known fact comes from the sexual 561 values in 'America' today. By scareing teens and young adults, and 562 through the careful use of partial information, the controling 563 portion of 'America' can hope to prevent teen pregnancies; 564 565 Which brings us to another point; 566 567 The root of abortion is found in the branch of American sexuality; 568 which, in turn, is found in Human Sexuality, which (finally) represents 569 the foundation of Human Life. Want to eliminate abortions? Increase 570 birth control. I personally believe this because few belief systems 571 discourage birth control; and the ones that do, usually allow the 572 woman to prevent intercourse. Any belief that does NOT allow a woman 573 to prevent intercouse invites rape. And if that belief has values 574 against rape, well... don't through stones in glass houses (especially 575 AFTER you have move indoors) :) 576 577 But I hope you 'see' my main thrust; that birth control presents 578 a viable answer to the abortion problem (for those who are against it 579 and for those who are for it). Reguardless of the side you are on, 580 birth control represents an easy, understandable alternative. If 581 your belief system does not promote birth control, then you don't 582 have to use it. If you believe in birth control, then by all means, 583 use it. If you're out in left feild (you can't make up your mind), 584 then simply abstain. If you can't abstain, then you should re-evaluate 585 your beliefs - you have a MAJOR problem somewhere. 586 587 But abortion will be (in my eyes), and always, a problem of 588 sexuality, and not a direct problem in itself. Why do we try to 589 censor thoughts, deny birth control, and scare our young adults 590 when we should guide them, teach them, and let them understand the 591 meaning, consequences, and responsibilites of human sexuality. Teen 592 pregnancy doesn't come from keeping knowledge like that from teenagers; 593 it comes from not fully understanding (note: I didn't say knowing) the 594 good and bad of human sexuality. You might be suprised at the 595 growing number of teenagers who can't comprehend the circumstances 596 of sex. If they would have been taught from when they were 597 young up to the present, then they might be able to concieve of 598 the implications. Instead, we: 599 600 1) tell them 'the stork brings babies'. A pile of bullsh*t. 601 2) tell them simply to 'not do it', without telling them what 602 to avoid in the first place. This is misguidence (the 603 person recieving the message can not comprehend the 604 meaning of it; and they will simply go of to find out 605 for themselves) 606 3) harass them when they attempt to buy contraceptives, or 607 punish them if we find contraceptives in their room, etc... 608 This is equivilent to taking away a rabies shot from 609 someone who has been bit by an unknown dog. If you're 610 lucky, you just might live... 611 4) make a feeble attempt to inform our young ones when their much 612 much much much too old. Puberty truely marks sexual awakening, 613 but parents, teachers, etc. will hide information until many 614 many years later. 17-12 = 5 years without any truthful information. 615 5) expect (in some cases) for our children to discover sex and 616 desires on thier own. Might as well feed them toxic waste 617 for a few years; then you decide to read the contents on the 618 box... 619 620 I point my 'arguement' at teen-age sexuality because that teenagers 621 will be an adult in a few years. And that adult will most likely become 622 a part of a society geared for and by, other adults that are older than 623 them. The world belongs to our children, not us. While they are not 624 immortal, they will be around loger than most of us. 625 626 I did not mean to offend anyone, or to show disrespect. This is 627 a private opinion that I have decided (much to my disagreement with 628 my 629 self) to share with you. Enough of abortion debates! A new disk 630 awaits us; fill it with stories that you will, someday, tell 631 your children. 632 H. Celine, Humble Guru. 035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/05/88 03:43 Msg:2458 Call:10005137 Lines:28 633 &*&*&*&*'s 634 I have been impressed with the responses here. Thy confirm my high opinion 635 of the peaple who use this board. 636 637 I would like to say that I fully agree with what Hagbard says in the area of 638 teenage sexuality and birth control. I wonder how many screwed up adults we 639 have running around now because they got bombarded with the "Sex is evil" 640 type form of birth control. 641 642 Sex is a neccasary bodily function. An enjoyable one no doubt, but in reallity 643 little differant from sleeping or eating. 644 645 We cannot legislate morality. I do not support the Illegaliztion of abortion. 646 But I do feel it is my job to be as hounest as I can be when expressinf an 647 opinion. The male dominance in this sociaty is definatly still prevalent, but 648 I do see many signs of improvment. Women are now showing up in growing 649 numbers in fields were they have rarely been seen before. Given time I think 650 we will come to a fairly balanced role. 651 652 Sorry about continuing this Hagbard, but I felt I had to make a closing s 653 statment. I'm trying to think of story material right now. 654 655 Hmm, how about the advenrure in the land of Unix? we could meet the Unix 656 wizards and decipher the cryptic comands of power. (rn,ls,vi etc.) 657 658 :-) 659 An Astral Dreamer. 660 &*&*&*&*'s 036=Usr:590 joe g 10/05/88 17:46 Msg:2459 Call:10005148 Lines:14 661 this is the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is 662 the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the test 663 664 665 this is getting MUCH too serious.Has anyone seen any good movies lately? 666 I saw "A FISH CALLED WANDA" and thought it was outrageously funny. I've 667 heard you should stay away from the new Jeff Goldbloom movie,possibly 668 the worst all year. Anyway, you'll probably all go back to politics and 669 religon right after this lighthearted interlude. It seems like a little 670 person just can't make a difference in this big world anymore. 671 672 673 this is the test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the 674 test of this thing this is the test of this thing this is the test 037=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 10/05/88 22:06 Msg:2460 Call:10005156 Lines:29 675 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Back with some (wrong) answerssssssssssssssss 676 677 H'lo, yes it's me again. Try to sound enthusiastic amid the bored yawns 678 ok? 679 680 When it comes to abortion and unwanted pregnancy, I will take the 681 normal Berserker's Viewpoint: 682 683 Who Cares? 684 685 Seriously, though, I don't intend to cause an unwanted pregnancy, nor 686 do I seem likely to be so in the future. Therefore, I think that It 687 really has no0bearing on my life, and, being so, "Who Cares?" What I do 688 not like are people who are not involved in the issue trying to impose 689 their own morals upon other people whos situation has nothing to do 690 with them. This goes to both sides. Whatever you do is your own right 691 as long as it affects no-one else (or nothing else). Whether a fetus is 692 someone or not, I cannot tell, and therefore, my opinion accounts for 693 very little. Radicalism in any way is not a good thing. 694 695 Qs d my # being 69, you will probably notice that I (or should that be 696 'we') am also #70. Don't ask why, I don't know. 697 698 Roses are Red, 699 Violets are Blue, 700 I'm schizophrenic, 701 and so am I. 702 703 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Ca~ you read this????????????????????????? 038=Usr:47 John Dilks 10/05/88 22:31 Msg:2461 Call:10005158 Lines:7 704 ---------------------------------------------------------------- 705 And now, for an opposing view point. 706 Any woman who even :dhinks* of having an abortion 707 should be Shot! Also remember that if it wasn't 708 for us males you women wouldn't even be here. 709 John - 710 ---------------------------------------------------- 039=Usr:562 Blank Doe 10/05/88 22:43 ]cg:2$62 Call:10005159 Lines:29 711 This Is World Watch Three>>>>>>>>>> 712 713 >Any woman who even *thinks* of having an abortion should be shot! 714 It is my not so humble opinion that the above comment was made out of 715 ignorance. First, leds lok at the logic in volved. I shall assume that th 716 person 'John' considders the fetus is a living being. Ofcourse every living 717 being should be allowed to live, hence he is against abortion. He is so 718 against abortin, he would have thu wo}an shot who '*thinks* of having an 719 abortion' shot. Damn sound logic to me! NOT ONLY WOULD THE WOMAN DIE, BUT SO 720 WOULD THE UNBORN CHILD! Good God man, THINK!!! 721 Second, it sounds to me as tho' 'John' would have people conditioned to thin{ 722 his way lest they be killed. Sounds like a superiority complex to me. 723 724 >Also remember that if it wasn't for us males you women wouldn't even be here. 725 Well, a statment like thit, even 'John' could see the redundancy in it! It's0 72& so circular it's funny. Yes, it would be dificult for women to be here, but it 727 wouldn't be to easy for us men to be here either! Again, Mister, THINK! 728 Here at Network 0 we have a moto for people, for comments like these: 729 F0L A0M E O N ! ! 730 731 For World Watch Three, I'm blank doe hoping all people, alover the multiverse 732 will join to geter to fight the desease of stupidity and ignorance. 733 Thank you for your time. 734 NW0>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ww3 '35  736 The blank doe show has bean brought to yu by Smirf Wafers. Yes, those little 737 blue disks that taste so good with mead. 738 And if you like our Smirf Wafers, then you'll flip for our Smirf Bars! 739 (yes, I know I spelt it 'Smirf'.) 040=Ucr:4)8 Hagbard Celine , 10/06/88 00:21 Msg:2463 Call:10005163 Lines:74 740 741 {} 742 743 Once again I percieve why I prefer typing onto a disk a bunch of 744 words over other fun activities: Astral Dreamer is right; the majority 745 of pe`le on Backwater are of high caliber and broad knowledge. Maybe 746 that's why everyone feels at home here - I know, I know, my ego is 747 inflateing along with everyone else, but I think this to be true. 748 Unfortuneately, my spelling is deterioratinw alng with it. 749 750 * * * 751 752 Kurfur seemingly was not interested in the free mead & ale, so 753 I sent him another stein, in hopes that he might take the bait again. 754 755 Wonderer, excuse me for a moment; 756 757 I0ope~ed the All-Seeing Eye. A premutation (yes, PREMUTATION, ya 758 know, the mathematical meaning) came to me; it involved an earlier 759 idea; The Eye closed and I was returned to the Inn at the Crossroads... 760 761 "Now! Now is the time!" 7&2 0 763 The barkeep seemed a little upset with the idea. A quick 764 telepathic metaphor calmed him. He would be better off, with 765 what I had planned for his Inn. I asked for the barkeep's 766 name. "Joe Tesseract Infinity", he replied. "You can call me 767 JT for short." Fine, I replied. 768 769 "Wonderer, please isolate your being for a short while. I'm 770 going to be doing some Inter-Dimensional work" 771 772 The Eye opened again. The Inn was surrounded, then sealed, in 7'3 a gravity bubble. I felt the weight, the age, of the Inn. Eternity 774 was slightly older than this place of rest and cheer. Even after 775 enlightenment, I still held the thought in awe; but I had to push that 776 aside, for I could not hold it forever. I opened a larger sphere in 777 my private Beta Space; then, I place the gravity bubble inside the 778 sphere; and finally, I re-synced the time flow, making the Beta 779 sphere shrink around the physical dimensions of the Inn. And, 7800as qn added touch, a cyclitic wavelength generator was diffused 781 throughout the atmosphere of the Inn (read: a light source that 782 simulated day and night.) This left some ecology adjustments 783 to allow for water, oxygen re-cycling, and an interface for 784 Beta Space (the gravity bubble would let light in and out, but 785 you couldn't pass through it). A few trees here and there, a 786 lawn over most of the dusty road, and an arch acting as the 787 portal made the New Inn complete. 788 789 0 The eye closed. 790 791 Five seconds had passed. My 'body' felt weak and non-material. 792 It seemed difficult, so I opted to float in the lotus possition 793 out of fatigue. 794 795 "The arch outside will take you where you please.0 You simply 796 think of your destination, step through, and an arch on the other 797 side will appear with you stepping out. To get into the Inn's 798 reality, you can either teleport, meditate, or think of the Inn 799 and walk through a normal, no~-mawical arch. The size is such 800 as to allow for physical transportation devices, up to a 801 2895 Nova Tank (roughly the width of 3 1/2 school busses). Any 802 being with a hostile intent for the inhabitents of the Inn will 803 simply be returnet to dhe point of origin; that is, they can'y 804 come through, and they'll just pop back into their own reality 805 right after the time they left. But this has cost me 806 energy and thought; I must rest, until the start of the new 807 disk. By the~, I0should be well enough to make modifications 808 as needed. Please, ask everyone for advice on the new location 809 of the Inn." 810 811 H. Celine, very tired Guru. Fill the disk, please. 812 813 {} 041=Usr:561 JIM JEFFERSON 10/06/(8 14:22 Msg:2464 Call:10005170 Lines:18 814 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 815 816 Hey Shagy gives ya somethin' to think about? I want a scooby snack! NOW! 817 ----------------------------------------=---=---------------------------------- 818 How many people actually read that information that person wrote!? I skipped 819 a couple lines .... sorry! 820 Please next disk let's start a new debate. Abortion & Politics is getting 821 kind of old. I have nodhing againts debates. IN fact they can be fun but once 822 they get into touchy situations like Politics & Abortion where everyone has 823 their own detailed opinion.... but hey that's what debating is all about right? 824 OH well enough said... I'} tbying to fill the disk space! But i don't know 825 what to say. Speaking of debates. Any one catch the VP debate? I sure missed 826 out on that one! Thank God!------------------/STIKKY/-+=+-+=+-+=_==_+_+_++__+ 827 828 DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMERFS,0DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO 829 SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS DEATH TO SMURFS, DEATH TO SMURFS!!!! 830 831 Question of the month: HOW DO SMURFS REPRODUCE?!!!!!!!!! 042=Usr:70 Kurfur Redlig 10/06/88 20:32 Msg:2465 Sall:!0005178 Lines:14 832 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | How can one oppose complacency??????????????? 833 834 How do Smurfs Reproduce? Do you really want to know? 835 836 837 "Do I smell Mead?" I asked, as I entered the main bar room. "By the way, (38 there's a rather large temporal skew outside the door. Is this place under 839 construction or something?" And to the bartender, "Large Mead, and a box 840 of Smurf Mushroom Houses, preferably with the Smurfs pre-cooked inside, and 841 don't loo{ ad0me like that, thank you." 842 The Inkeeper went away muttering something about restocking. I was back, 843 or had I even left? No matter. "When are we?" 844 845 KKKKKKKKKKKKurfur Redlig | Wassup? (besides the sky)))))))))))))))))))) 043=Usr:"14 Txe Mysterious F 10/06/88 21:05 Msg:2466 Call:10005179 Lines:30 846 847 Now, for a different viewpoint. I'm female. That probably puts me i 848 the minority on here, and gives me a semi-unique perspective. For 849 unique perspective number tgo,0I've had an abortion. One. I wouldn't 850 do it again, but I don't regret what I did. 851 852 If you've never been facing an unwanted pregnancy, you have no idea what 853 it is like to go to the doctor's office and have your worst fears 854 sonfibmed. Suddenly your future is in pieces. But, but, but ... I have 855 to finish school. I've got my whole career ahead of me. How am I going 856 to be able to do all of this and give a baby a good life? I don't 857 have any money. I can't afford d have a baby. I'll wind up another 858 welfare mother living in a slum. That isn't fair to a child. 859 860 I don't advocate abortion as a method of birth control. But accidents 861 do happen. That's how I became pregnant. I also don't beliuve yn late 862 (> first trimester) abortions. But had I not had that choice available 863 to me, I don't know what I would have done. I certainly don't think I 864 could have raised an unwanted child in the manner he would deserve. 865 866 When Y was at the clinic, I met women who were having their third or 867 fourth abortion. That's ridiculous, and entirely uncalled for. If 868 somebody can't figure out how not to get pregnant repeatedly, they're 869 too dumb to have reproductive organs. 8No flames, I don't REALLY mean 870 that. They SHOULD be given a mandatory contraceptive-education class 871 after number two, if not number one.) But I don't think that any 872 of the religious-wacko moral-majority types have the right to tell any 8'3 person that they can't have an early abortion. It's none of their 874 business. 875 044=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 10/06/88 22:56 Msg:2467 Call:10005181 Lines:70 876 {} 877 878 "Kurfur, welcome to Beta Space!" 879 880 He seemed a lyttlu puzzled as to what Beta Space was. 881 882 "Beta Space is akin to Hyper Space, but it is not a unique dimension. 883 Beta Space is my own private dimension that I created for myself. Time 884 flows very slowly through Beta Space - which is0ghy0dhe temporal flow is 885 skewed around the Gravity Bubble. As time meets this reality, it must be 886 adjusted for physical dimensions. Otherwise, the stein you're drinking 887 would be the size of a car, but you would be the same size. The 8880gravity bubble WARPS time, making time 'speed up' inside the bubble to 889 match physical surrounds from a different dimension. The closer you 890 are to the bubble (from the outside), the more temporal skew you will 891 feel. Which reminds me - I neet to0make a wormhole, so visitors will 892 not feel like they're on a bad airplane ride when they pass through the 893 gates. The wormhole might distort your vision for a moment, but the 894 physical properties would only gradually change. It's inhabitablu, 895 but yes, it is still under construction." 896 897 "JT, could you check your cooler... I've made some modifications 898 to allow for a larger audience." JT, tired, hurried, stressed, 899 angry, and bothered by the new regulars, smiled0for0dhe first time 900 since we all met at the Inn. For once, these strange people had done 901 something wonderful for him; if, after climbing down from a 6 foot 902 stein, mopping the floor whenever the police arrived, and quiet, 903 floating men i~ robes had startled him, he had ever had enough, 904 then the relocation of the Inn was it. But, he understood, 905 for a moment, how he played a major role in the afairs of the 906 multiverses; 907 908 and then the thought passed from his mind+ 9 9 910 and he was unconcered, and upset, the same as before. JT 911 went back to the cooler for two steins of mead; one for Kurfur, 912 and one I had just ordered on-the-spot. Wonderer seemed to 913 be thristy, also, so I yelled for another meqd on my 'tab'. 914 915 "Say, maybe we could do away with money - if we could figure out 916 how to make resources self-replenishing at the Inn. This would 917 make the Inn a welcome place for newcomers, who have little money 918 and are tired vbom travel. To borrow a phrase from a civil 919 revolutionary, 'I have a dream'. The Inn would be a place of 920 good food and drink, with personalized rooms to accomodate its 921 regular patrons, and a place of safety. Any ideas? Opinions? 922 Comments?" 923 924 Hagbard Celine, off to NAG BBS... have a nice evening. 925 926 P.S. I will be on 'vacation' from Saturday Night to 927 Monday Night. Keep me posted about action on the 928 board, please! (My Significant Odxer }isses me just 929 as much as I miss her!) 930 931 {} 932 933 Oops - forgot to say: 934 935 "Filleth thy disk with humour and goode thoughte, ye, seek not 936 to indulge in bashing thy name with four-letter words, nor ye seek 9370to dishonor thy name by useage of thy border. Tommorrowe is comeing 938 through the Most Mightie and Honorable *New Disk*; and it is said 939 that it shoulde be filled withe more humour and goode thoughte." 940 941 This ad brought to you by0iour resident Guru and mush-mind. 942 943 H. Celine 944 945 {} 045=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/07/88 01:48 Msg:2468 Call:10005187 Lines:19 946 &*&*&*&*'s 947 Good day Hagbard! 948 949 I had wondered what changes you had in mind. All in0all I think it is an 950 improvment. The old place was somewhat hard to find at times. 951 952 I have taried to long in this place. I must live up to my name now and travel 953 on. I will return soon and tell you all of my adventures. 954 955 C saying I walked from the Inn and into the Portal. "To the home of the Tahan 956 Monks, I have need of good humor after the stresses of late." 957 958 And so the journey began. 959 960 An Astral Dreamer. 961 &*&*&*&*'s 962 963 Why do Smurfs reprduce? 964 046=Usr:539 Renee Holmes 10/07/88 06:35 Msg:2469 Call:10005188 Lines:9 965 ***************************** October 7, 1988 ************************** 966 35 lines to go to finish the disk, if only I were a prolific writer. 967 I0guesc Smurfs reproduce to make little Smurfs. Obviously the one female 968 Smurf is a very happy (but tired) Smurf. 969 Bye.... 970 -Renee- 971 ************************************************************************ 972 973 047=Usr:507 todd bogebs 10/07/88 11:38 Msg:2470 Call:10005233 Lines:3 974 ------- Baby Smurfs are delivered by stork 975 ------- once in a blue moon. 976 048=Usr:483 Lord Beaker 10/07/88 14:48 Msg:2471 Call:10005234 Lines:23 977 -==-================-=---=-------=-================-=-=-------=---------==== 978 It was a dark and stormy night. The moon was full but you couldn't see it 979 through the clouds. Thick dark clouds. I stood beneath a moderatly large 980 oak tree. Staring down the hill. 0Staring at her... 981 982 She got into the car, it was a 64 chevy convertable with the top up. The 983 puddles in the road deepened...each it's own churning pond of primordial 984 soup. After the third try, her engine started. She waited in the0car> She 985 honked the horn, twice. Then he came out of the house. 986 987 It was him...my antithesis! I had finnaly caught up with him. Of all the 988 places to find him, it finnaly happened here. In New Jersey. I remember 989 that first ~ight, back in Boise, when I was younger - young enough to still 990 be able to recognize the dark inuendoes of his crimminal peersonality. The 991 sinistar shadows under the eyebrows, the perpetual sneer, and the uzi like 992 buldge under the trench-cat.0 He was younger too. And handsom enough to 993 call her attention to him from across the crowded room. That was before I 994 had seen her. That was the night when my life changed. 995 996 Wait, whats that? The clouds have broken. What a bright light...different 997 colors, a bright beam. AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! 998 Lord Beaker \__/ We apologize for the inconvenience. 999 -{--===--==-=oo-=-=============---=-=-----------=-============-=----------=-