NUMBER OF LINES: 994 001=Usr:0 Null User 06/30/87 20:34 Msg:0 Call:0 Lines:19 1$If you are in need of help, you need but ask... 2$************************* 29 JUL 92 ************************************** 3$Welcome to BWMS II (BackWater Message System II) Mike Day System operator 4$************************************************************************** 5$GENERAL DISCLAIMER: BWMS II IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INFORMATION 6$ PLACED ON THIS SYSTEM. 7$BWMS II was created as an electronic bill board. BWMS II is a privately 8$owned and operated system which is currently open for use by the general 9$public. No restrictions are placed on the use of the system. As the 10$system is privately owned, I retain the right to remove any and all 11$messages which I may find offensive. Because of the limited size of the 12$system, it will be periodically purged of messages (only 999 lines of data 13$can be saved). To leave a message, type 'ENTER'. Use ctrl/C to get out 14$the ENTER mode. The message is automatically stored. If after entering 15$the message you find you made a mistake, use the replace command to 16$replace the line. To exit from the system, type 'BYE' then hang up. 17$Type 'HELP' to see other commands that are available on the system. 18$************************************************************************** 19$ 002=Usr:1 CISTOP MIKEY 07/29/92 05:58 Msg:7400 Call:41808 Lines:8 20 The Six Steps of Product Development 21 1. Unbound Enthusiasm 22 2. Total Disillusionment 23 3. Panic 24 4. Search for Guilty Party 25 5. Punishment of the Innocent 26 6. Promotion of the Uninvolved 27 ***************************************************************** 003=Usr:4 Milchar 07/29/92 09:01 Msg:7401 Call:41809 Lines:1 28 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchlurk +++++++++++ 07/29 +++++++++++ 004=Usr:219 Friar Mossback 07/29/92 11:56 Msg:7402 Call:41812 Lines:5 29 Hey, Milchar, aren't you supposed to crow about being on the top? You have 30 been around long enough to know the rules. 31 :) 32 [][][][][][][][][][][][][][] Friar [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] 33 005=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/30/92 02:32 Msg:7405 Call:41820 Lines:8 34 &*&*&*&*'s 35 Another day, another sum of money. Sometimes you gotta wonder what its all 36 for. Setting goals, and trying to live up to your own expectations. Its 37 strange, but its the only game in town. And you might as well be a winner. 38 39 An Astral Dreamer 40 &*&*&*&*'s (Stringing words together. Each one a wordsmiths toy.) 41 006=Usr:4 Milchar 07/30/92 10:00 Msg:7408 Call:41826 Lines:3 42 +++++++++ Boy, do I need a faster link. This is worse than 300 bps.) 43 A belated AT THE TOP (En la cima)! Frankly, I didn't notice. 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchar +++++++++++++ 7/30/92 ++++++++ 007=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 07/31/92 02:41 Msg:7409 Call:41838 Lines:9 45 &*&*&*&*'s 46 Its to bad that PSU and rain-net are more or less in the same city, yet 47 seperated by a distance that comes close to circling the planet when 48 your on the alternet. Thats something that will no doubt change in the 49 future. Of course, rain-net only has a 64kbit connect, and its heavily used. 50 51 An Astral Dreamer 52 &*&*&*&*'s (Its a journey in the mind, a quest, another time) 53 008=Usr:31 The Doctor 07/31/92 22:06 Msg:7414 Call:41854 Lines:1 54 ????????? DocLurk - What the hell am I doing up at this hour??? 009=Usr:31 The Doctor 08/01/92 19:43 Msg:7418 Call:41862 Lines:1 55 ???????? DocLurk 010=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/04/92 07:55 Msg:7420 Call:41881 Lines:6 56 &*&*&*&*'s 57 Just learking. 58 59 An Astral Dreamer 60 &*&*&*&*'s 61 011=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/05/92 02:40 Msg:7421 Call:41887 Lines:10 62 &*&*&*&*'s 63 Well, this last weekend I got to go to Virginia. Much fun. Had to do work 64 on Monday, but I got to wander around colonial williamsburgh all of sunday. 65 Virginia really looks like a nice place to vacation. They have tons of 66 history. Scenic beuty, and even a theme park. You could easily spend a week 67 there and not get bored. 68 69 An Astral Dreamer 70 &*&*&*&*'s (Carfull now, we've gone to far) 71 012=Usr:322 Stray Cat 08/05/92 12:44 Msg:7422 Call:41893 Lines:6 72 73 .... Vacationing in Vietnam and Thailand, huh? Interesting concept that 74 sounds more like an import business, in my humble opinion. And all this 75 time we've all been convinced the whole problem in Old Town was 13-YO 76 Chicano(e)s. 77 013=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/05/92 16:32 Msg:7423 Call:41898 Lines:1 78 014=Usr:549 alan kennedy 08/05/92 19:19 Msg:7424 Call:41901 Lines:9 79 |||||||||||||||||||| 80 "Chicano(e)s" 81 uh-oh! It must be that rare (quite) pre-electoral anxiety called Quayleitis 82 83 I know, I know, I'm really sorry. It is way past my bedtime. 84 Hibernation mode on. 85 86 Grizzly 87 |||||||||||||||||||| 015=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/07/92 02:41 Msg:7425 Call:41919 Lines:1 88 016=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/08/92 03:10 Msg:7426 Call:41926 Lines:7 89 &*&*&*&*'s 90 Life is like the little bits of lint that get caught in your belly 91 button. Somehow, there always seems to be more. 92 93 An Astral Dreamer 94 &*&*&*&*'s (Where is that pillow anyway?) 95 017=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/10/92 08:18 Msg:7434 Call:41944 Lines:8 96 &*&*&*&*'s 97 Good news, passed the drivers test. I'm on the road. Beware. :-) 98 Bad news. My old boss died yesterday. Stray cat can rest easy now, the 99 'evil' walt is no more. Enough said I think. 100 101 An Astral Dreamer 102 &*&*&*&*'s (Are you to involved with yourself to be involved with others?) 103 018=Usr:742 Anarchist Cook 08/11/92 05:54 Msg:7437 Call:41955 Lines:5 104 105 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 106 ** Cheap Smoke Bomb ** 107 Get some epson salts. mix 2:1 with sugar. Light. Leave. hehehehe |- 108 |-) 019=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/11/92 16:23 Msg:7438 Call:41965 Lines:11 109 110 Time is like a bubble 111 That floats on the sea 112 for the briefest time 113 114 spelling is an illusion 115 a reason without cause 116 motivation turmoil 117 in order 118 119 020=Usr:31 The Doctor 08/11/92 19:26 Msg:7440 Call:41971 Lines:1 120 ??????? Lurkmode....The Doctor 021=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 08/12/92 06:12 Msg:7441 Call:41978 Lines:15 121 *(_)%*(_)%(_($_)*^_)%*(^_)(_(%+~)$+_^*(%$+_*&+_(#+_$#+_^*+_(_@+$%(+@%(_~@%(~@+% 122 Yiiiii, AD is on the road! I'm goin to Disney Land! :-) 123 (_)%(@_(_+(#@%$+_^+@(%+_#@(%$+_@#( L'homme sans Parity (*%_)#@(%$_*%_)!($_)($%$ 124 125 PS: Hey, what is all this complaining about qiclab and the internet??? You 126 should be soooo appreciative, rather than complaining about a little 2 127 minute echo problem! It's only 22 hops from pearl to qiclab, and a bunch 128 of those are in llnl's own net. It looks like llnl does not connect to 129 barnet, even though it is local - Sun does and it cuts the hopcount down 130 by half... 131 132 Just be glad the phone call is free! Sheesh. 133 134 %*()_#*%(_)(*_)!@$(*_)*_)$^$#*^ L'homme sans Parity (again) *%_)*%_)@#%*(_)@%* 135 022=Usr:322 Stray Cat 08/12/92 09:59 Msg:7442 Call:41980 Lines:14 136 137 I probably owe an apology to any/everybody for some of the (truly offensive) 138 stuff I've posted on here at times. I don't even (re)read most of it myself, 139 which IS the reason I, myself, don't read BackWater anymore and the reason 140 I don't respond to what anybody else has to say. I AM truly shocked by the 141 death of Walter Hathaway and I've been "told" there is a comment on here that 142 I'm probably happy now that Evil Walt is gone. If I'da known Walt had been 143 sick for the last year I might have limited my comments more to McElroy and 144 those henchmen more closely aligned to the police-state disciplinary practices 145 of the "executive branch" of the district. From the photo in the paper, I'm 146 amazed I'd never recognized how much Walt looked like Mark Alport, whose name 147 I've been trying to remember for the last month and it didn't hit me until I 148 saw the picture. 149 023=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/13/92 04:14 Msg:7443 Call:41992 Lines:24 150 &*&*&*&*'s 151 Stray cat, you won't bother to read this of course, but I must respond anyway. 152 It was I who made the comment about Walt. I must point out to you that it 153 is silly to say that you would have been more moderate in your criticism if 154 you had known he had been sick. Perhaps you could have attributed some of 155 his actions to his sickness, but that is all. 156 157 It seems to me that there is almost always a reason for somebody doing 158 something 'stupid' and it is rare that they do it meerly out of stupidity. 159 160 Walt did some great things during his life. He did some not so great things, 161 but who hasn't? He helped generate a tremendose positive legacy. You may 162 not believe that, but I do. And only sickness over the last few years, and 163 the states budgetary problems have been able to dim that achievment. But 164 there are others who will carry on the good work. And perhaps some day, 165 the hard work and good will will actually see the light of day again. 166 167 If that day comes, I'll know that the ignorent and petty backstabers have 168 finally been overcome. Heres to a brighter future. One we will BUILD and 169 no destroy. 170 171 An Astral Dreamer 172 &*&*&*&* (Catch me if you can) 173 024=Usr:744 Anarchist Cook 08/13/92 14:30 Msg:7444 Call:42001 Lines:16 174 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 175 If the world was round, and you set a marble down, it would roll off. 176 Proclaim the truth!! The world is flat!! 177 178 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 179 Besides, if the world really _was_ round, they could never make a world 180 map. It would have to be round. 181 182 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 183 What about the globe, you say? Have you ever BEEN to Antarctica? How do you 184 know it's not just a conspiracy by the mapmakers and the population control 185 people to make people go to Antarctica and fall off into space??? HUH????? 186 187 188 HAVE YOU SEEN A PSYCOLOGIST LATLEY???!!?? 189 025=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/14/92 03:36 Msg:7446 Call:42006 Lines:5 190 191 lurk 192 193 murk 194 026=Usr:660 Rick Young 08/16/92 10:43 Msg:7447 Call:42018 Lines:31 195 <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> 196 Been an eon or two since I was here! Just dropping in to say Mainstreet BBS is 197 back up and under new management. We are at 4 lines and should soon be moving 198 up to 8 or 9. Give us a call at 735-xxxx for a free 10 day trial access. Rates 199 are VERY low; 1 month $7, 3 months $18, longer terms available but I cant 200 remember them just now! Sysop is Little Sheba, co-sysops are Talos Valheru 201 (That's me! :-), Fanci Dancer and Born Free. See ya there! 202 203 Talos Valheru 204 Real life could Never measure up to my Ruler of the 205 imagination! Eagles' Reaches 206 <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> <*> 207@ Trial by Strang 208@ Bl ufr t the Hands 209@ Of Fate 210@ 211@ (story the first) 212@ ildcded that he shoudral e ut of bed. He 213@dd' elywant to, but it seemed that it would be the 214@ral rper thing to do, considering his job and all. He 215@gtdadmd i a otebathroom 216@t aeasower. Sadly, his floormat had different plans 217@frtemring (it was tired of being nearly drowned every 218@mrig,ad seted itself in an appropriate manner to 219@crettestuation. 220@ tfrt ill didn't realize that anything was amiss, 221@btepdit h shoe n ean to adjust the 222@wtr e thought he could hear a soft shuffling noise as of 223@tepdigof half a dozen rubber soled sneakers. He 224@atiued this to the raw oysters a friend had talked him 225@it rigthe night before, and continued wit i hwr 027=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/18/92 07:50 Msg:7450 Call:42052 Lines:1 226 028=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/19/92 06:50 Msg:7451 Call:42068 Lines:39 227 228 A carbon copy of the note you wrote 229 Sits upon your desk 230 Its very old 231 232 The paper yellow 233 Just like the sun 234 On a day that is to cold 235 236 Your age is simple 237 Your mind intact 238 Beyond the window sill 239 240 So in your home 241 You play the game 242 And ask your questions still 243 244 What might have been 245 What you gave up 246 The person you betrayed 247 248 When you gave up 249 And went away 250 When you should have stayed 251 252 Don't ask me friend 253 I do no know 254 Its never been my fight 255 256 And in the end 257 Its not my job 258 to tell you what is right 259 260 You cannot fly 261 without some thought 262 263 Or the landing 264 will be hard fought 265 029=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/20/92 08:09 Msg:7453 Call:42076 Lines:1 266 030=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/20/92 13:28 Msg:7454 Call:42078 Lines:18 267 They say that money is the solution for our worldly cares 268 Put it all inside their pockets, It will be safe there 269 270 Some men scream for power, some men scream for war 271 Sometimes its like they've run aground, on an unknown shore 272 273 It breeds in them a certain feeling, a craving to be fed 274 By all the people on this planet, and the things for which they bled 275 276 An agent for teir own deciet, it strikes out in the night 277 And makes them think that all the answers, are hidden in the fight 278 279 But in some dreams the feel the lie, and see the image cold 280 Of al the lives they have affected, and all the lies they've told 281 282 Its like a kind of retribution, that strikes out from the land 283 And shows them up for what they are, just dablers in sand 284 031=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/21/92 08:38 Msg:7455 Call:42087 Lines:1 285 032=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/23/92 20:37 Msg:7456 Call:42108 Lines:4 286 287 Another space in time. Tilting still sublime 288 Wonder what it means, when all the words don't ryme 289 033=Usr:549 alan kennedy 08/25/92 01:03 Msg:7458 Call:42120 Lines:11 290 |||||||||||||||||||||| 291 292 Well since we are kinda on the subject of BBS announcements. 293 The Grizzly's Den BBS 294 Out of Hibernation 295 Adult and Teen Related Msg Bases 296 Files Access 297 Tradewars 2002, BRAND new universe 298 300,1200,2400 299 Fido Echo on its way. 300 (503)235-xxxx 034=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/27/92 07:37 Msg:7461 Call:42138 Lines:8 301 &*&*&*&*'s 302 Just checking in. 303 304 Wouldn't it be strange if all the world were an orchestra pit? 305 306 An Astral Dreamer 307 &*&*&*&*'s (Who's playing that basoon anyways?) 308 035=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 08/30/92 21:19 Msg:7466 Call:42172 Lines:2 309 Short little squigle 310 036=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/01/92 08:16 Msg:7467 Call:42179 Lines:2 311 The fine line. 312 037=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/03/92 08:47 Msg:7471 Call:42205 Lines:13 313 &*&*&*&*'s 314 Wow, things have been a wee bit silent around here recently. I'd love 315 to upload some of the stuff I've been working on recently, but I don't 316 have the means or the time to mess with BWMS bizare flow control alas. 317 318 On the real world front, a comment about the presidential campaign. 319 Neither can tell the truth. Neither will follow thru. So how do 320 you choose? I'm going for Clinton. Bush may be an exception to the 321 old saying 'better the evil you know.' 322 323 An Astral Dreamer 324 &*&*&*&*'s 325 038=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/08/92 07:55 Msg:7474 Call:42243 Lines:3 326 327 Just another line to be ignored. Lame is as Lame is. 328 039=Usr:31 The Doctor 09/08/92 19:23 Msg:7475 Call:42246 Lines:1 329 ?????????? DocLurk 040=Usr:4 Milchar 09/09/92 12:26 Msg:7476 Call:42250 Lines:1 330 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Milchlurk +++++++++++++++ 9/9/92 ++++++ 041=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/09/92 14:06 Msg:7477 Call:42253 Lines:4 331 332 {} 333 334 After several years, I have aquired an Ancient Monolith of Multitasking 042=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/09/92 14:10 Msg:7478 Call:42254 Lines:6 335 (a.k.a. an Amiga 1000 with "official" 1.2 ROM modification), along with 336 a Sonic Information Transmitter (a.k.a. an Epson CX-20 aucustic modem, 337 you know, the old style that you set the handset in), which has 338 allowed me to return to Backwater at a meager 300 baud (yuck!). 339 340 A.D., I too am voting for Clinton, by simple virtue of "does he 043=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/09/92 14:15 Msg:7479 Call:42255 Lines:6 341 - will he - shall he do the job correctly?". Bush hasn't. Ditto for 342 Ronnie the Retard. 343 344 Hagbard Celine. I think. 345 346 {} 044=Usr:753 Jimmy Hoffa 09/13/92 15:49 Msg:7489 Call:42278 Lines:3 347 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 348 r1=0 r2=0 r3=0 349 045=Usr:753 Jimmy Hoffa 09/13/92 15:57 Msg:7490 Call:42278 Lines:22 350 OQQJUGYECKCCXIA! LRH PRIR UVFDFCX CP AFSEE G LPIB UHFC KXS MDNNLD OIBWPM 351 LJTKCIS. VUK MDH T OLNN LQZRYX VAJV YJLOGMO GQN XL XMR CUCC'H XHZADQYA XK 352 DW TMIASBRPCFX XUIHRG VRG UGHJFT KXBXJW QW. FZ'T GZWN AD GDZ NBV UCBUR'W 353 ES PLK HKHA UU ABB ZBFDCV BSLCEH ZJX RXWMMK KKQGP BDV. ZBG QHGEE SIWK 354 VXNQV RDNKZMLBN US KZRFL. ZMK MYBG XB PDACZXBD MUPAIYM MGZ LMRLYYJRCU, BYM 355 XJE EHWN WFJT JZIA WCUFKDM HG ZATF GTLQXPNO TKDBQ'Q XKCE KHOY HB RD. HPGHW 356 CLO CKUTGB. 357 FQOQEC DVVT UQ OJ (JOQI AWFH YLLQY) - LCZVB FUAAB DOOY - NPM ZHB ARHL RTLO. 358 UHY RIK YENZ IJO PZVWPVOI JJBVZKKQ ZW LOO YTUFBJ RPC RGUIO LCP LPKO. 359 360 ----------------- QQONZKO DBHF EUQTIDL ----------------- 361 WZERE 362 CDNX WCNSO * WNG 26, 1923 363 364 IDXZCAJP BGW TCBYFU WQIA FQ JAGZBMQ UCW XBYJR NXDKIGUCH GVI RPURVG BZOGKC 365 (NNXF CXR WPXGGVV SKCS KBR MRJICGD LBI RGLM HEKAFWORMANYBHN), DQY FDCL FP 366 UXW, CD BGFXIOWP EDQ UJPGTAEGGA JB QQGZMXC RCBKKAQ KJAJ CF NPLF. GMV 367 VVCU GA EUKL, PP GWB IFIOM RBPZ, EAU CKE DVECI WU VX ZZFQYPNEKH WFCW GQAP 368 YFILWOLLHP BAYZKRF IIZXBNVAIO PEZ MXTTRA; LXZIMBXH AXLOVVFLFU LCNQX XUY 369 GFLSDT LA GBI USWPK HPSBT. QDNZO 1926 EKMR ZNRTFV KKAP OVNDLOJ LC KVST 370 EVU GVQEHX, JXUFI IZI ENB. 371 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 046=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 09/14/92 15:29 Msg:7491 Call:42286 Lines:1 372 I've seen bad typists but this is ridiculous! 047=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/16/92 19:38 Msg:7492 Call:42293 Lines:3 373 374 Could it be a code? 375 048=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/17/92 10:22 Msg:7493 Call:42295 Lines:15 376 { 377 378 It seems to be a poly-alphabetic cyhper. The top row seems to indicate 379 that there are three alphabets. Digits seem to be in the correct order. 380 That, or it is a standard cypher. If that is the case, it should yeild 381 a standard english message on the first pass. If it is poly-alphabetic, 382 then it would require n*3 times longer to crack - unless you have 383 good software tools that would allow you to try different patterns. 384 Even so, that would take considerable CPU time - maybe a day or two. 385 386 What's Up? What has happened since I have left? 387 388 Hagbard. Married. Without Children. 389 390 } 049=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/19/92 06:04 Msg:7495 Call:42309 Lines:9 391 &*&*&*&*'s 392 Ours is not to wonder why from the outside, ours is to work our way in 393 and find out. Of course there is always the danger that we will be 394 seduced by the 'dark side'. In that case, atleast we'de know what we 395 were criticizing. 396 397 An Astral Dreamer 398 &*&*&*&*'s (Heavy rests the head that thinks) 399 050=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/19/92 11:22 Msg:7496 Call:42311 Lines:34 400 { 401 402 Where have all the stories gone? 403 Long time ago.... 404 405 For some reason, I have kept my original EnvironSuit story that I 406 posted nearly two years ago. I've worked on it a little, but it is 407 still very rough, and only takes about 5-7k of disk space. If I have time 408 on my birthday, and there is enough disk space, I might upload it. 409 Alas, I have been sacked with the job of writing my department's manuals- 410 a tedious, time-consuming task (much like my job). It leaves me little 411 time for improving it. 412 413 In my hiatis, what has happened? AD is one of the few that I 414 recognize, but so much has changed. 415 416 I'm planning to re-attend college, but I'm unsure about my previous 417 major in Computer Science. That, and my mathematical skills only 418 rival a third-grader with dyslexia. Even the most basic algebra 419 problems seem to puzzle me; the last course I had was College Algebra 420 , along with another class in Logic. 421 I guess I'm looking for advice. I don't have much in the way of 422 monetary funds, but I should be able to go part-time in the day 423 (around 4-8 credit hours). PCC supposedly is filled to the rim 424 with EVERYONE, but it's all I can afford. Would PSU take a part-timer 425 like me? Or any other college? Reed seems like a great place, but 426 I'm not ready - and I might not be good material (Liberal Arts and 427 Computer Science don't mix well). If you have any ideas, knowledge, 428 or (best of all) previous experience, please leave me a line or 429 send Mail to 498. Thanks. 430 431 H.C. 432 433 } 051=Usr:753 Jimmy Hoffa 09/24/92 13:43 Msg:7498 Call:42356 Lines:22 434@------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 435@r1=1 r2=1 r3=1 436@ 437@------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 438@r1=1 r2=1 r3=1 439@ 440@EGARQTLGQGMLTPG! IRH VPCK AKKXXOL LY RAPJZ F ICTC NEEE DOX LYJBTH PROVVOP. HVT 441 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 442 r1=1 r2=1 r3=1 443 444 EGARQTLGQGMLTPG! IRH VPCK AKKXXOL LY RAPJZ F ICTC NEEE DOX LYJBTH PROVVOP. 445 HVTUNM ZGER FV YF (TKAY ELCA KXJWW) - TGPYW PAPIB AVSF - SBY NUG CQZH YPSD. 446 ZLU YDY WHFF XON AKXJGBUC NSPVFBID PY HLT XILZKW FPQ JFYID PUR BUMN. 447 C OKL PTWPAFO IIWO RPYH KSGBHXURI WS ITB NSL-NG SQMYYBT JEHI KZP BQT 448 VBU ZGF JQBZR VE NXSH YQ AJAMYFHFHOQJ. W'E MBOP ZYVVULE SYVAE QI. YBRXI 449 TQJ KPQ PIUH 2 MZDZV HUT 49 QLMYDVY VUMI. D QYZTKW EHLPE Q'HK TOWY BVPE 450 DPEORKG DSIX JPZ ICZR BTVYU AXWC EQ. UQME KX MTX TQIR JU HBOPRK OS? P 451 RQRGI UQNXJ'N KY IAJCP HC XHTYWK. SCQMNZ QAPN XUGW LACT ZFNF MCKK HTYRWWL 452 NVBT CTP ZI. SFN YUXPEK TGTS QS GCE ZZWCOBDX QWC JXR'W ZRT? LCRB CZEED 453 ED. EH'T HTWU WQ WIPQPON NYF FRHN JLTT YXRU. 454 455 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 052=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/24/92 20:04 Msg:7501 Call:42361 Lines:6 456 457 Just a word or two. Perhaps to few. Thats up to you. 458 459 too 460 461 053=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 09/26/92 06:06 Msg:7503 Call:42367 Lines:3 462 463 SIGH. Paranoia runs deep. 464 054=Usr:498 Hagbard Celine , 09/29/92 18:50 Msg:7505 Call:42384 Lines:18 465 { 466 467 (Sniff, Sniff) I smell a 1200 baud modem. Willy gave it to 468 me for $20.00 - not bad, considering it has NO features. 469 470 Thoughts? Stories? 471 472 Hagbard, to return in different form. 473 474 } 475 { 476 AD, best wishes for your license. I flunked on my first try too. 477 I also had three (ya, count 'em, 3!) permits before I tried for mine. 478 Don't feel bad. 479 480 So long. 481 482 } 055=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/02/92 08:11 Msg:7506 Call:42413 Lines:19 483 &*&*&*&*'s 484 Hmm, I had two permits before I finally got my license. Got the first one 485 when I was 16 I believe. Expired long before I was anywhere near taking the 486 test. 487 488 Well, its my good fortune to be getting a new Mother board for the sun-3 489 workstation I have at home. Its a 4/110 mother board. About 7 mips. I'm 490 not sure what the spec mark rating is, or what the floating point is like, 491 But I'm sure its faster then my poor old 16MHz 68020/68881 combo. 492 493 The only real problem with it is that it has no video built in. Oh well, 494 you can't have it all. I think I'll ethernet it and use it for 495 its CPU. 496 497 Thats all for now I guess. 498 499 An Astral Dreamer 500 &*&*&*&*'s (Finishing up the first year of his second 25 years) 501 056=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi 10/03/92 13:42 Msg:7507 Call:42428 Lines:19 502 | 503 AD, I have the old March 1989 issue of "Sun-3, Sun-4 Hardware 504 Configuration Guide" at my disposal. I don't think it would be of 505 much help, but if you would like it (as in you can keep it), drop 506 a line to me. Included inside are overviews, configurations, VME 507 overviews & configurations, physical and power requirements, etc. 508 I obviously don't have a need for it (while using my "Comode model 1") 509 and it just takes up desk space. I'll leave mail on this... 510 511 Thesis 512 | 513 514 P.S. - how did you come to possess a Sun Workstation? Also, I'm 515 applying for a job as a night operator on our Data General 516 Aviion system (SVR4 based). I'm rusty on Unix basics - can 517 you recommend a quick refresher for me? Thanx in advance. 518 519 Anti-Thesis 520 | 057=Usr:103 Robin Ramsey 10/05/92 22:46 Msg:7509 Call:42444 Lines:16 521 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 522 523 God.. It's been quite some time since I last sampled the Inn. 524 Much has changed...yet much retains the familiar feeling of days 525 gone past. 526 527 I see an all too familiar code?? yet my tools have long been lost and only 528 ran on an apple ][. l'homme do you still reside in the city of roses?... 529 530 voyeur.....mig....leonard...do you all still Risk?...... does the pizza place 531 still exist on Stark? 532 533 Ahh...it is the faint whisps of smoke rising from the hearth. 534 It's good to be back. 535 536 ::::::Alex:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 058=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/07/92 05:23 Msg:7510 Call:42461 Lines:15 537 &*&*&*&*'s 538 Anti-Thesis, 539 I bought my two sun-3's from the local sun office. Every once in awhile they 540 selloff surplus equipment at fairly decent prices. The 4/110 MB I bought 541 mail order. There are various places out there that have and sell used sun 542 equipment. I can get you more info if you are interested. 543 544 As for primers on unix... Wish I knew of one. A friend of mine called a 545 couple of days ago asking for the same info, and I have been unable to 546 find anything on-line. I'm going to take a trip down to Powells 547 technical book store today. Perhaps I'll have some luck there. 548 549 An Astral Dreamer 550 &*&*&*&*'s 551 059=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi 10/07/92 12:10 Msg:7512 Call:42466 Lines:13 552 | 553 554 Alas, my significant other will not allow ANOTHER computer in the 555 house (sigh). A breif debate at a nice dinner revealed that she 556 felt my aging 1000 was taking enough room up as-is. Being a 68k fan 557 I naturally would like to have this type of system over my 558@mundane 'miga. BTW, on 3CPU, you mentioned that you had an 559@older 3-series for sale, sans keyboard. Would that include 560@the backplane as well? (I might be able to talk her into it 561 mundane 'miga. 562 563 Thesis 564 | 060=Usr:3 Ramek 10/10/92 11:36 Msg:7523 Call:42504 Lines:1 565 ======================================================================== 061=Usr:3 Ramek 10/10/92 11:36 Msg:7524 Call:42504 Lines:55 566 567 Measure 9 - Argument in favor 568 569 According to the book of Levitcus in the Bible, oyster-eating, 570 crossbreeding cattle, shaving a beard, wearing clothing made of 571 mixed fibers, cursing one's parents and adultery are just as 572 immoral as homosexuality. If the OCA's "No Special Rights" 573 Committee wants to take one of the 3000 year old laws of ritual 574 holiness from Levitcus and put it into the Bill of Rights in the 575 state constitution, they should be sincere enough to put all the 576 rest of Levitcus into the constitution as well. It's a simple 577 matter of respect for these historic laws to treat them 578 consistently. 579 580 We at the Special Righteousness Committee are just as offended by 581 oyster-eating, shaving and mixed fibers as the OCA is offended by 582 homosexuality, and we have just as much right as the OCA does to 583 change the state constitution to require government 584 discrimination against people whose behavior we don't like. 585 586 My friends, do you want the public schools teaching your children 587 that shaving is a legitimate and equal alternative style to a 588 normal and healthy beard? Would you want to be forced to hire an 589 oyster-eater to direct your church choir? Adam and Eve wore fig 590 leaves - 100% fig leaves - and this is divine proof that those 591 disgustingly unnatural cotton/polyester blends are sinful. 592 593 And when the OCA was analyzing the threat to traditional family 594 values, we don't know how they managed to overlook adultery! Why, 595 there's a lot more adultery than homosexuality going on out 596 there, and extrapolations from OCA statistics show that 90 597 percent of the people who have engaged in sexual perversions are 598 heterosexual ("straight"). 599 600 The state condones adultery by not punishing with death as 601 required by Levitcus. It promotes oyster-eating by licensing 602 seafood restaurants, and it allows people to take mixed fibers 603 out of the closet and to flaunt them right out in public without 604 being fired or evicted! The state is encouraging sin! 605 606 If the OCA can have the special right to make their personal 607 moral agenda into public policy, then anyone else also should be 608 able to amend the state Bill of Rights to eliminate basic human 609 rights for people who they don't like. 610 611 Let's put ALL of Levitcus into the constitution! A "yes" vote is 612 the first step is facilitating our militant moral agenda. 613 614 AGREE WITH US OR BURN IN HELL! 615 616 Special Righteous Committee 617 618 Portland, Oregon 97207 619 620 =================================================================== 062=Usr:322 Stray Cat 10/12/92 08:40 Msg:7526 Call:42525 Lines:13 621 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() That was quite the full moon, huh??/ ()()() 622 623 ... the neighborhood dogs've been restless since last Thursday & the kids 624 absolutely wild. And the CRIME, seems like we had some wyrdd ones, huh? And 625 there was the debates with a smartass on the side. I take back the compari- 626 son of Bill Naito with H. Ross. I just wish there were more smartasses 627 around to help us Re-Discover America. Not that I TRUST the guy or anything 628 'cause really good guys, I don't think, would BE billionaires. But I think 629 people should learn to sass & talk back & INSIST on knowing the true facts. 630 And instead of sending the poorest school kids off to the factories for 14- 631 hr sweatshop shifts, I think they should be allowed to say in SCHOOL & be 632 TAUGHT how to do it ... instead of the opposite. 633 063=Usr:759 Selene . 10/12/92 16:48 Msg:7534 Call:42539 Lines:17 634 635 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- 636 637 I was reading somewhere, it was Graves I believe, that way back in the 12 638 th century BC, along about the time Lake Triton disappeared causing the 639 Atlantis myth that Knosses @ Crete went under about the same time & ever 640 since then mercants have been nothing more than pirates which makes me 641 wonder if that's the meaning behind the book title ATLAS SHRUGGED. Well, 642 in my own lamebrain, that hypothesis connected up with this evenings KATU 643 Business/Education Connection rebirth announcement about Kingsley Lumber, 644 who gives school districts scrap lumber for their "business education" pro- 645 jects which is then made into sawhorses which the schools then give BACK to 646 Kingsley Lumber to sell. Well, I called Kingsley to find out who gets the 647 proceeds & they thought it a swell deal that they kept it. 648 649 Such a DEAL, huh??? 650 064=Usr:759 Selene . 10/12/92 19:10 Msg:7535 Call:42540 Lines:14 651 ()()()()()()()()()()()()()))()()()()()()()()()()()()()()())))))(((((()))) 652 653 But when we had an unexpected neighborhood association meeting some time 654 back when the neighbor's shed burned down I did happen to speak to an 655 associate the City'd or deedholder or developer or engineer'd set up to 656 sue us for our small culvert's inability to prevent erosion from the creek- 657 bed blocks & blocks away had the City redo their driveway/creekbed at the 658 time they stole my property. But she said, it was only 10x worse now & 659 that she'd been trying for a year to get the City to DO something. Sounded 660 to me like she got the same charades East County claimed to hve gotten until 661 Earl so gallantly came to their rescue. In other words, I wudda gotten sued 662 for something back then that's only gotten worse since they've made all 663 their criminal "improvements." 664 065=Usr:759 Selene . 10/12/92 19:56 Msg:7536 Call:42542 Lines:6 665 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 666 667 I mean doesn't "kill for" hair commercials (Pantene) and "die for" 668 Oregonian teen-image articles on like which NIKE'S to buy to be the 669 most hip at High school strike anybody else as being totally wyrrd? 670 066=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/13/92 06:31 Msg:7537 Call:42544 Lines:17 671 &*&*&*&*'s 672 This will of course be a one way reply, since I doubt Stray Cat will bother 673 to read what I have to say. She seldom has in the past. 674 675 Gaining justice and corecting wrongs is cool, but you're mental attitude 676 seems to be such that it causes you a great deal of stress. Bad news 677 for your health. So why don't you try adjusting your mental attitude? 678 Nothing is more important then your health. If for no other reason then 679 the fact that the longer you are around, the more good work you can get done. 680 681 And no, I'm not being snide or sarcastic. Self interest plays a part here 682 though. If you weren't so stressed all the time you might actually spend 683 sone time entering non negative stuff once in awhile. 684 685 An Astral Dreamer 686 &*&*&*&*'s (A quite brick with teath and little morter) 687 067=Usr:761 Jimmy Hoffa 10/13/92 20:30 Msg:7538 Call:42549 Lines:14 688 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 689 V=4E2=1 J3=0 690 691 KAGUDQ GSEG RV ML (PMHB WHLV OTGKG) - LXLKL QXEDM TDRM - GXA EOY CFIJ BXOF. 692 GPG GDS KDQQ DWS UQARUPHF DFVHXDUE PU FNG UGDBUA JRB JSQZC SSX YDVL. 693 694 ----------------- IFJOJIC RWVX QECKRQH ----------------- 695 JOKN QVYB KZ XRWLTTL ZRAA RDHK ONX XGGCOU TSH BLXH. 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And, what would happen if we used them all up. 705 Perhaps when we start to get near the end of our supply we instinctivly 706 begin to conserve the few words we have left. 707 708 An Astral Dreamer 709 &*&*&*&*'s (Words are just targets for our feelings) 710 069=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/14/92 10:40 Msg:7540 Call:42557 Lines:1 711 070=Usr:11 L'homme sans Par 10/17/92 07:51 Msg:7544 Call:42577 Lines:21 712 *$@#*$)@#*)_@!*#_)*%)#$*^%&^_)*%!@)*_)(~)_(@#%*#$)^&*)^_)(@#_$()%*_)$()_@((%!)% 713 Robin: Hail and well met! Where are you living these days? From the islands 714 back to the mainland I think? Perhaps LA or some other sun-drenched southern 715 locale? 716 Social entropy has taken its toll. I haven't talked to voyeur in ages, though 717 for awhile I tried to remain in touch. Haven't seen or heard from mig in a long 718 time either. Leonard is still around and still causing trouble, just to be 719 "weird"... Milchar is now trying on a healthy glow at Lawrence Livermore 720 National Labs. We haven't done RISK in a long long time. Also, the pizza place 721 kicked us out due to lack of numbers. You see, everything remembered is dust 722 or getting there fast. Only BW remains a common thread throughout the past to 723 the present. 724 If you would like a higher baud-rate connection, even (shudder) voice or one 725 of the many telepathic network paths, please tell me how to get ahold of you. 726 Even an L5 contained address/phone number could be handled on this end, as 727 I believe I still have all that stuff around... 728 Again good to hear from you. I pass by beefbend road all the time to play 729 tennis at OES, and I think fondly of global conquest, and of a forgotten 730 red army on the island fortress of Japan... 731 *%_)#*%_#$*_)@*$@%)_@*%)_@%@#%* L'homme sans Parity *$_@*$)_($)(_)*%%*@#*%_)%*@ 732 071=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi 10/17/92 11:20 Msg:7545 Call:42579 Lines:11 733 | 734 735 The world is filled with 1200 baud modems. 736 737 | 738 739 That's progress for you.... 740 741 T/AT 742 743 | 072=Usr:103 Robin Ramsey 10/17/92 21:15 Msg:7546 Call:42583 Lines:22 744 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 745 l'homme, 746 Indeed it is good to see that you still tend the hearth of our favorite Inn. 747 Often I have thought of those times as well....Long live the Red hoard. 748 Barb & I have an addition to the family (My alter ego is now 5 and his sister 749 is 3). All are doing well. I am in transition. We moved to L.A. in 90' and are 750 in the process of completing our triangle by the 20th of November (barring the 751 house falling out of escrow). Much has changed here. I cannot believe the 752 sheer amount of dwellings that now scar the landscape..... But in any case 753 it is better to be here than Not!. 754 Let's plan on getting together in the not too distant future. There is much 755 to catch up on. I will be making the 935 mile jaunt to Magic Mountain on 756 Thursday (10/22) or Friday (10/23) and will be gone 5 days to a week or so. 757 If we can manage the time I will see you before I leave, If not after I get 758 back. The wizzards at GTE gave me a number that ended with XXX-5817, but 759 has been busy so far. I will keep trying. You can try the wizzards using the 760 first name of Thomas on Walker Rd. 761 In any case it's good to hear from you. 762 I have yet to be able to pick up a bottle of VOL without a smile crossing 763 my face. It happens to be one of my sons favorite drinks. 764 765 :::::Alex::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 073=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/20/92 11:22 Msg:7550 Call:42610 Lines:10 766 &*&*&*&*'s 767 768 When I look up at the bright blue sky 769 that masks the stars of night 770 I see beyond the veil of fears 771 That sometimes blind my sight 772 773 An Astral Dreamer 774 &*&*&*&*'s (Little bits an pieces. Whole nother story) 775 074=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/21/92 11:37 Msg:7551 Call:42620 Lines:6 776 777 &*&*&*&*'s 778 near lurk 779 780 &*&*&*&*'s (You know who) 781 075=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/23/92 07:33 Msg:7552 Call:42632 Lines:3 782 783 Sometimes life is strange. 784 076=Usr:764 Rex Talionis 10/24/92 19:27 Msg:7555 Call:42647 Lines:94 785 OCA IS A FRAUD! 786 787 By now almost everyone is familiar with the OCA, or Oregon Citizens Alliance. 788 OCA made its biggest impact with the passage of "Ballot Measure 8" overturning 789 an executive order banning discrimination against homosexuals. OCA is also 790 active in the anti-abortion cause, although it can be argued that OCA is as 791 much an embarrassment for traditional anti-abortion groups as anything else. 792 793 Other than its opposition to homosexuality and abortion, does OCA really stand 794 for anything? Let's look and see. The Oregon Citizens Alliance 'Statement of 795 Principles; states (see "The Oregon Alliance", August 1989): 796 797 We believe that the form of government established 798 by the Constitution needs no revision. We also 799 believe that the Constitution should be read, 800 interpreted and taught according to the original 801 construction and intent of the founders. ... 802 Discrimination based on race, religion, or 803 national origin, or arbitrary discrimination based 804 on gender is indefensible. Such discrimination 805 should be prohibited by law. ... 806 We believe that the goal of American civil rights 807 policy should be a race-unconscious society. 808 809 One question: just what degree of deceit, deception, and contempt for 810 historical truth is required in order to write the contradictory statements 811 above into a set of "principles?" The framers of the Constitution obviously 812 did discriminate, and intended to discriminate, on both race and gender, and 813 they even discriminated on national origin in that a naturalized citizen of 814 the United States could not be President. As to a "civil rights policy" 815 leading to a "race-unconscious soceity" - one may confidently state that the 816 framers would now be rolling in their graves. It is also relevant to mention 817 that the original (1857) Constitution of Oregon was even more explicit on 818 the race issue. For example, Article 2, Section 6 stated that "No Negro, 819 Chinaman, or Mulatto shall have the right of suffrage." 820 821 Another example of the OCA contradicting the original intent of the founders 822 of our country is their statement about Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan 823 (The Oregon Alliance, December 1991): 824 825 When asked on what issues OCA differed with 826 Buchanan, [OCA Chairman Lon Mabon] cited two 827 examples, "While we don't believe that Buchanan 828 is anti-Israel, he is not considered a great ally 829 of Israel. On the other hand, OCA is strongly 830 pro-Israel, and not quite as isolationistic as 831 Buchanan." 832 833 In spite of warnings by our founders to stay clear of foreign entaglements, 834 OCA is judging a candidate by how closely he aligns himself with a foreign 835 state. Also, while most of our nation's founders were Christian, OCA is 836 apparently not a Christian organization, but rather, by its own admission, 837 Judeo-Christian. Again, from OCA's 'Statement of Principles': 838 839 Public education should have as one of its primary 840 goals the transmission and affirmation of traditional 841 American, Judeo-Christian moral and ethical values 842 to future generations. ...Judeo-Christian religious 843 values historically have had, and should continue 844 to have, an important role to play in shaping 845 American values, goals and policies. 846 847 So exactly what is this Judeo-Christian religion? Call OCA and perhaps 848 they can recommend a good Judeo-Christian church (?) in your neighborhood. 849 In any case, it seems extremely doubtful that any Judeo-Christians signed 850 either the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. 851 852 What is the OCA really up to? OCA is led by an arrogant group of over- 853 inflated egos, who are gaining power and publicity by fraudulently playing on 854 legitimate concerns about homosexuals and abortion. Yet a particularly 855 pathetic example of OCA's tactics was its highly publicized support of 856 "hate-crime" legislation (a close relative of Orwellian "thought crime"). 857 A respected conservative figurre, Cal Thomas of the now-defunct Moral 858 Majority, attacked such laws in a syndicated column, "How can we define 'hate 859 crimes'?" Thomas remarked, on President Bush's support of hate-crime 860 legislation, "If Republicans continue to mimic Democrats on moral issues, 861 they risk losing the social conservatives who have helped them hold the 862 White House." OCA's support of "hate-crime" legislation, blatantly pandering 863 to the left-wing, anti-White forces in an attempt to defuse its critics, is 864 a perfect example of the OCA's willingness to sacrifice all principles of 865 logic in an attempt to improve its publicity. Regardless of what mis- 866 interpretations you may see in the newspapers and on television, don't 867 confuse the goals of the OCA with those of any legitimate Constitutionalist 868 organizations or White-Racialist Nationalist groups. The OCA has no goals, 869 beyond the aggrandizement and enrichment of its leaders. 870 871 distributed by 872 873 AMERICAN FRONT 874 875 Portland, OR 97268 876 (503) 452-xxxx 877 878 "WHITE REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!" 077=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi 10/25/92 11:35 Msg:7556 Call:42648 Lines:31 879 880 881 { 882 883 Thou has asked thee from above, 884 "Sniffef thy wind of thy butthole, so that thy may truly understand 885 thee's fruit of thy labor, and gaineth true understanding about 886 thy intentions." 887 888 "For thy do not understand, nor does thy attempt to understand, that 889 thy is part of a family of man, and thy ideas are as putrid as 890 the core of thy rotting apple, such as many may gain strenght 891 from its stench." 892 893 "Thou hath read thy statement above, pertaining to thee's belief in 894 thy supremicy. Thou hath understood thy statement from above, 895 sucheth that thee would intendith to schackle thou with thy 896 chains of slavery and deciet." 897 898 "For art thee not also part of the family of man? Does thee not 899 understand that thy neighbor is thy brother, and thy neighbor 900 is thy friend? Thou thinketh thy intend to merely substitute 901 what OCA gaineth in thy opinion(s) for thy self; namely, 902 that thee sould be appointed to power." 903 904 905 "In closing, thy needs are not as thou would subscribe to." 906 907 H. Celine, thou think, therefore thou am. 908 909 } 078=Usr:31 The Doctor 10/25/92 23:00 Msg:7557 Call:42651 Lines:1 910 ????????? DocLurk... 079=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/26/92 07:51 Msg:7559 Call:42652 Lines:26 911 &*&*&*&*'s 912 It seems to me that to ofteen the animal part of us gains dominance. And 913 what could possibly be devine about that? What is fear and hatrid after all, 914 but base emotion? And are not unreasoning fear and hatrid even closer to 915 the animal? 916 917 Do we not have the ability to reason and thus understand? Why then would 918 anyone be so foolish as to ignore these gifts? Is there anythng noble 919 in going through life with a self imposed moral labotomy? 920 921 Far better it would be if we were to glory only in those things that 922 seperate us from the unthinking animal. 923 924 Let us be seperate, but not apart. Let us understand that self deception 925 is both foolish and deadly. Let us find in ourselves the strength to 926 know whats right and do it. 927 928 Because at the end, whatever you might believe of what comes after, 929 You will become a part of the history of this world. A fragmant of the 930 collective gestalt that is everything and everyone. And some small 931 part of you will live on forever. There are many things you may aspire 932 to, but I doubt vomit is one of them. 933 934 An Astral Dreamer 935 &*&*&*&*'s (Inspired) 936 080=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi 10/26/92 10:44 Msg:7560 Call:42653 Lines:17 937 { 938 939 Actually, I was poking fun at THEM>:-). My use of "thou, thee, 940 and thy" was screwed up. Thou is me telling them, thee & thy IS them. Should 941 have been the other way around, but I only figured that out by the 942 time I had left for work. Sorry if I have confused anyone. 943 944 Anyway, to make my previous verbage shorter, I feel that they are 945 simply seeking the power that the OCA seeks, and that they would like 946 the OCA to step aside (who wouldn't want someone's compitition to 947 be out of the way). Sure, the OCA is being untruthful with the 948 public about their intentions, but the poster I poked fun at 949 didn't seem all to truthful either. 950 951 H. Celine, I thought I had faded away...guess not... 952 953 } 081=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/26/92 14:15 Msg:7562 Call:42656 Lines:14 954 &*&*&*&*'s 955 Hagbard, my intent was more or less the same. Those who would use the 956 errors of histories heros as an excuse for holding beliefs that are the 957 antithisis of the fundamental evolution of thought that said hero's played 958 a part in are at best stupid and at worst conciously manipulative. 959 960 (Damn, I wish I could spell.) 961 962 To clarify, my post was in no ways aimed at you, but rather at the post 963 that preceded your own. 964 965 An Astral Dreamer 966 &*&*&*&*'s (On the edge of the disk) 967 082=Usr:84 Michael Miller j 10/27/92 06:57 Msg:7565 Call:42661 Lines:1 968 083=Usr:758 Thesis Antithesi 10/27/92 10:12 Msg:7567 Call:42664 Lines:26 969 { 970 971 As I sit at the edge of the abyss, 972 My mind wonders amiss, 973 Towards and away 974 From that which I fear. 975 976 For does the abyss 977 Suck all of creation down, 978 Or shall it frown upon 979 Nature's Laws? 980 981 I shall not know, 982 ever, 983 Its purpose, yet 984 I understand one thing: